Marijuana and School

<p>hyakku: Give it up for the love of God.....no matter how much you want pot smoking to be the norm, legal, accepted, harmless, however you want to put it....it ain't gonna happen. If YOU want to keep smokin and tokin then go for it and get back with us all in 40 years (if you can remember ever being here in the first place) and tell us how feel THEN. This is just a stage.....it too shall pass.</p>

<p>Someone mentioned earlier that a benefit to growing pot would be the by-product of hemp. In reality, industrial hemp contains a negligible amount of THC. Although C. sativa indica can be used for the same purpose, it generally is not as effective.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-284.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-284.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/28/us/28hemp.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=91ceae32c041982e&hp&ex=1156824000&partner=homepage&oref=slogin%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/28/us/28hemp.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=91ceae32c041982e&hp&ex=1156824000&partner=homepage&oref=slogin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>One reason a lot of people are probably anti-pot is that it's associated with the '60s (which is a pretty bad argument, but related to the better argument that it's associated with hedonism). As for the people who say that if pot's banned, alcohol should be too, maybe it should. That's probably not what you intended me to say, though. But an alcohol ban would be much harder to enforce than pot, and it would get knocked down by the strong alcohol lobby. Same for tobacco. One thing I don't get is why medical marijuana (which I admit is OK) is so restricted when morphine is freely prescribed.</p>

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hyakku: Give it up for the love of God.....no matter how much you want pot smoking to be the norm, legal, accepted, harmless, however you want to put it....it ain't gonna happen. If YOU want to keep smokin and tokin then go for it and get back with us all in 40 years (if you can remember ever being here in the first place) and tell us how feel THEN. This is just a stage.....it too shall pass.

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<p>Dude, you keep telling me how I'M going to live my life. You don't even know me. I know many succesful adults who smoke, in fact, ironically, one just asked ME for pot (weird). As I said, go through those medical journals, especially the one with cognitive decline in older people who continued to smoke, funnily enough how they experienced slightly less cognitive decline, so your argument is invalid. If this was true, a large portion of teens of the 60s would all be dead/braindead, which, obviously they aren't. You keep saying this is a "stage", as if people smoke to impress people are be cool. That argument is never true, except for kids who are truly that desperate for friends and think smoking will get them that, which, many a kid who has tried that with me or friends has found out quickly. No one respects someone who just spends their money for fun, and again, just as people casually drink or smoke cigarettes, so too do many people smoke weed, its not some weird stage, its just something people do.</p>

<p>Edit: And I lack a strong love of God btw.</p>

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One reason a lot of people are probably anti-pot is that it's associated with the '60s (which is a pretty bad argument, but related to the better argument that it's associated with hedonism).

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<p>Um...no. One reason a lot of people are anti-pot is because it's illegal. I don't get why that's so hard to understand.</p>

<p>hyakku: this is the problem we all eventually run into with debate threads (and why debate is pretty much pointless). We can give all the evidence we want, and there are amazing arguments on both sides. But people (especially on CC) are stubborn. We're not going to change our beliefs just like you're not going to change yours. It's pretty much pointless to keep debating, as (you can see this in this thread) you end up going around and around in a circle with the same arguments after a certain point.</p>

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Um...no. One reason a lot of people are anti-pot is because it's illegal. I don't get why that's so hard to understand.

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<p>Who says that's mutually exclusive? You can't ignore all the people who are against pot because it's associated with the radicalism of the '60s. That it's illegal helps to prevent its usage, but it won't change minds about it.</p>

<p>Pot is a cheap substitute for happiness. Well, actually, quite an expensive substitute...</p>

<p>Wow, I've really contradicted myself on this thread.</p>

<p>I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I mean that that is a more popular reason, at least around where I live. I don't think I've ever even heard anyone bring up the '60s thing. Though granted, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I wasn't trying to cut down your argument, by any means...sorry if I sounded rude.</p>

<p>You didn't sound rude. I was just trying to point out that around here, people are scared of it because things that are associated with it. Maybe it's because you live in California, and I'm more than halfway across the country. And I kind of assumed that you weren't trying to cut down my argument because were on the same side of the issue.</p>

<p>Wait a sec. I have two tabs open on this same thread. How'd that happen?</p>

<p>XD that's happened to me before.</p>

<p>Yeah, I think it's definitely a thing that depends on where you're from.</p>

<p>Plus, a lot of my friends' parents grew up during the 60s, which may contribute to it quite a bit.</p>

<p>pot isnt expensive at all really, its pretty much the same price as alcohol.</p>

<p>Just because something is illegal doesn't mean that its bad. At that rate, your saying that the government is always right. </p>

<p>the government also endorses war, endorses alcohol, endorses cigarettes, and shuns gays.</p>

<p>Have you ever read Civil Disobedience?</p>

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Just because something is illegal doesn't mean that its bad. At that rate, your saying that the government is always right.

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<p>Please don't put words in my mouth. There are VERY few people who think the government is always right. But the fact remains that Marijuana can have negative health effects and it's illegal. While it may not be bad, the very fact that it's illegal is going to drive a lot of people away.</p>

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If I'm not mistaken, she's also claimed that she has snitched on people simply for cheating.

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<p>:(</p>

<p>Haven't you ever forgotten to do a HW assignment and copied someone else's before class started? It happens to everyone. Telling is really mean.</p>

<p>edit: Pandora just started playing the song "weeds". Funny.</p>

<p>Actually, I haven't. If I don't do the homework I face the music and tell the teacher that I didn't do it.</p>

<p>If I don't do the homework, I'll usually frantically scribble something down and the teachers will almost invariably give me full credit.</p>

<p>Yea it's pretty sad how homework is graded nowadays. It's only really graded by the real teachers or the ones with smaller class sizes. I sympathize, but I wish I could get a little more cred for the hours I spent at home...</p>

<p>The problem with pot is that a lot of kids at my school are selling it. I mean they have futures, but I don't know what will happen if they ever get caught. Sure they're making a ton of money, but is it worth the risk? </p>

<p>If you want to smoke it, just don't get caught, don't force other people to use it though. If they say they don't want any then don't ask again.</p>

<p>I agree: the problem isn't the smokers, it's the sellers.</p>

<p>At my school say 35 % of the kids smoke (which is pretty accurate).</p>

<p>The kids selling make a killing. The problem is that the sellers actually getting addicted to making the easy buck. Their school work suffers--- not as a result of actually doing drugs, but from all the time involved in selling.</p>

<p>@Grace, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, but you really are coming off as a bi*ch. Don't get offended by that, its just how I'm reading your comments. It seems like your one of those stuck up people that feels good about themselves by pointing out fallacies in others. Again, I'm not saying YOU are, just your comments read as if you are.</p>

<p>---I tell on people who cheat
---I tell on people that fight
---I would tell on people that do drugs
---I'm saying something is bad that i've never done before.</p>

<p>Again, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your comments, because i know that i may be misinterpreting them, as reading text online isn't the best way of conveying ideas, emphasis, or emotion.</p>

<p>When i read it, it appears YOU are the one lacking morals. For instance, I would always remain loyal to the students, and not the faculty in your fight situation or your cheating situation. Those are my morals- stay close to those close to me.</p>

<p>Now the rules might say I am the "bad" one, but i will counter by saying that government is the root of all evil.</p>

<p>..How is that not supposed to offend me?</p>

<p>FYI: I am EXTREMELY loyal to my friends. Just ask them. But if I have to choose between my future and someone I've never even met, you can bet I'm going to choose my future.</p>

<p>And by the way: I would not report someone for fighting, because THAT is pointless. I don't know where you got that. I said that if we're WATCHING a fight, they'll give us a citation or even suspend us.</p>

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---I'm saying something is bad that i've never done before.

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<p>THAT is a pretty weak argument. I've never committed murder, I've never stolen anything, I've never gotten into a fiistfight. But oh wait...I can't say those things are bad, because I've never done them.</p>

<p>Go ahead and think I'm without morals. I don't really care; you obviously don't know the first thing about me.</p>

<p>If anything, you're being extremely hypocritical by pointing out MY flaws and then saying I do the same thing. But like I said, I couldn't care less what you think. I care about the opinions of those who actually know me.</p>

<p>Also, I think it's pretty sad that people will stand up for what's wrong just to keep their friends instead of standing up for what's right. I'd rather be hated for doing the right thing than loved for doing the wrong thing.</p>

<p>Jesus why is everyone attacking her.
Regardless, the sellers don't "force" anyone to buy or smoke. Its the peoples choice, and sellers don't always do it for fun. Example, my friend got hit by a car and had his leg shattered, the state tried to claim he was j walking even though it was CLEAR that he wasn't, so now he has to go through a ridiculous amount of lawsuits. Not only that, but because his leg is so messed up, he can't really work too many places, so he sells pot to survive. I know another situation with a kid who was arrested when he was a juvenile, turned his act around, but still couldn't get a job, so he sold until he finally found one. To some people its a means of survival, which is why it being legal although good, would not be preferable. Decriminalized maybe, but legal and too many people lose jobs.</p>

<p>I've never heard someone put drug dealing in a positive light before. What the heck?</p>

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Now the rules might say I am the "bad" one, but i will counter by saying that government is the root of all evil.

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<p>Yet I'd like to see how you'd fare without it.</p>