<p>Congratulations to SoCalinAR and son, on son’s admission for clarinet Performance at the University of Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, as noted on another thread.</p>
<p>S- BM in clarinet performance. Rejected by Northwestern. Accepted by: Arkansas State University (Safety!) with full ride, University of Hartford (Hartt School) w/$27000 talent scholarship, Boston University w/$24000 need based/academic influenced scholarship and University of Cincinnati CCM w/academic based scholarship of approx. $19000. He’s going to Cincinnati, his first choice!</p>
<p>SoCalinAR, when people say full ride, I like to make sure that they mean what I think they mean. I consider a full ride the entire cost of attendance, not just a full tuition scholarship. Is that the case at Arkansas State? Congratulations either way to you and your son.</p>
<p>S accepted to NEC via congratulatory email from Chair of Jazz Studies - no packet yet. BM/Jazz Studies/Piano</p>
<p>Congratulations once again to squiggles1118 and son.</p>
<p>BassDad- Yes, the entire cost of in state attendance was covered through academic scholarships (even before the discount we would receive due to his dad being a faculty member). Costs at ASU, however, seem to be less than many other state schools!</p>
<p>Squiggles - woot! I’m so glad that you finally heard from NEC and that the news was good. Congrats to you and your son.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Squiggles and S!!! Great accomplishment!</p>
<p>Congratulations to every one else as well on the amazing list of acceptances! Good work all around, moms, dads and students!</p>
<p>BassDad, I have found out a lot about the Columbia Juilliard Exchange. The admissions folks at both schools have been very generous with their time and with information.
Basically, the options are these, and I offer these details for all those currently analyzing this option, and for those looking for information in coming years:
He can go to Juilliard for the BM, and as a junior and senior can take electives at Columbia. But with this option he would have a Juilliard degree, not a Columbia degree.
He can go into the Columbia Juilliard Exhange, where he is a student at Columbia; he would have a Juilliard ID, be able to use the library and facilities, and would take a weekly lesson there in his instrument. He would end up with a Columbia degree, not a Juilliard Degree.
What the Exhange does offer is the ability to audition as a junior for the Juilliard Masters program, so that he would spend his 4th year at Juilliard, and his 5th mostly at Juilliard but with some time at Columbia to complete the Columbia degree. At the end of those 5 years he would have a BA from Columbia, and a MM from Juilliard.
So it is certainly not the equivalent of many schools’ double degree programs, but it is interesting.</p>
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It should also be noted that any Juilliard student in good academic standing can arrange to take an elective course at Columbia (if they can manage to schedule it.) You don’t need to be in the joint program for this.</p>
<p>@BassDad, a couple days ago, you commented:</p>
<p>“All, I just noticed that we are collectively over $2 Million in scholarship offers. That sets a new record for this list, even though we probably have at least a couple hundred more acceptances to come. I am not sure whether schools are offering more this year or people are more willing to report their amounts but, either way, good work by those who are auditioning.”</p>
<p>There might be another interpretation. I had a conversation with a conservatory admissions representative a few months ago. He told me that admissions reps from various schools had conferred and come to a consensus that they were seeing more applications this past year, but not more applicants. In other words, students are applying to more schools per student than in the past. Could the schools be offering more scholarships knowing that they will have more declines?</p>
<p>I’m going to guess that some reports of scholarship amounts include grants, which are based on financial need.</p>
<p>And I finally got my last acceptance! Here are the results:</p>
<ol>
<li>Rice - Rejected (didn’t pass prescreening)</li>
<li>Juilliard - Rejected (but at least I got an audition!!!)</li>
<li>University of Maryland - Accepted $8,000/year in academic and music merit</li>
<li>Peabody - Accepted $14,000/year music merit</li>
<li>UT - Austin - Accepted $12,000/year academic music merit</li>
<li>CU - Boulder - Accepted full ride academic and music merit (I am in state)</li>
<li>U Houston - Accepted $12,000/year academic and music merit</li>
<li>DePauw University - Accepted $18,000/year academic and music merit</li>
</ol>
<p>As Frodo once said on the fiery slopes of Mt. Doom, “It’s done.” :D</p>
<p>Congratulations to bassbari94. Unless you tell me otherwise, I will assume that by full ride you mean full cost of attendance rather than full tuition.</p>
<p>mrky and glassharmonica, thanks for the info.</p>
<p>lkbsmama, that was indeed one of the possibilities I meant to include by saying that schools are offering more. It could be that they are offering more scholarships, scholarships that are on average larger, or both, or it could be that we have just had more people willing to share their numbers this year.</p>
<p>mom4, undoubtedly, and I bet that also happened in prior years.</p>
<p>Congrats to all who have been accepted, as no matter what that is quite an accomplishement and you should be very proud. I’m sure it’s been posted many a time on these threads, but after this experience I do feel the scholarship amounts to many of the private colleges are very misleading - they all sound great until you look at the actual tuition and what you still will be paying out of pocket. While a public university scholarship looks paltry in comparison, what really matters is the % of tuition the scholarship covers. </p>
<p>We had one private college first offer up a $21K academic scholarship prior to auditions, then come back and “replace” it with a $22.5K music scholarship instead - so they came up a whopping $1500 for music on an annual tuition of $36K, leaving $14K out of pocket. That may sound good to some, but I found it borderline unethical and still expensive compared to some great in-state public universities. In the end, my son is heading out of state to U of South Carolina with a nice music scholarship combined with a significant tuition reduction. I guess my only point here is, don’t get infatuated with the scholarship amounts, look at the real costs of attending and then decide if it’s really worth it. I am copyrighting the phrase “college math” whereby a $2,500 scholarship to a major public university is equal or better on % of tuition basis than a $22,500 scholarship to a private college.</p>
<p>I would argue that calculating the award as a percentage of tuition is not really all that useful. Since tuition is only one piece of the pie (and sometimes not even the largest piece) the size of the award relative to the tuition cost can be a very misleading statistic. The real cost of attendance is much more difficult to calculate.</p>
<p>Remember that the cost of room and board varies considerably from one school to the next. Also, the fees over and above tuition, tuition surcharges for taking popular classes or for taking more than a set number of credits in a semester, the cost of lessons with a private teacher (usually covered in BM programs, but perhaps not for a BA in Music who wants to have private lessons or for a music minor), transportation costs to and from home for both the student when they come home and for the parents if they want to come hear concerts and recitals, books and supplies, health insurance, and on and on.</p>
<p>Where aid is concerned, you need to differentiate between the type that has to be paid back (loans and the resulting interest) and the type that does not (grants, scholarships, talent awards and the like) and be aware of what strings are attached to the latter (required GPA, ensemble or accompanying duties, work study, and so forth).</p>
<p>It is not an easy thing at all to figure out which is the better deal, even if you think that two schools are relatively equal in terms of the education that the student receives and the opportunities they will have while there and afterward. Once you start factoring in the differences in teachers, differences in the quality of ensembles and other students at the school, availability of departmental funding for travel to things like contests and professional auditions, opportunities to make professional connections…</p>
<p>There really is a lot to think about and only a few weeks in which to make a very important decision. Good luck to all of you who are in this position.</p>
<p>Another thing to consider is the cost of living in the vicinity of the school- most kids move off campus after their first or second year. School X may be 5K less than School Y in tuition, but if you discover that renting in the first city will cost two or three times as much in rent as the second one would, the tuition difference vanishes.</p>
<p>BassDad- your last post will be deemed a masterpiece in later years and should be permanently “stuck” to the top of the Music thread! Thank you.</p>
<p>We just got the letter saying he is waitlisted for Fall 2012 and accepted Spring 2013. His primary instrument is Guitar, but his intended major is Music Production & Engineering. We are waiting for any scholarship letter, but are not expecting much being on the waitlist.</p>
<p>All I can say is “WooHoo!!!”</p>
<p>Now, does anybody have any money they can afford to help him? Just kidding - he’s going to have to work his skinny little butt off for the next several months, that’s for sure.</p>
<p>Any tips on waitlist choices and dorm housing possibilities if he starts in Spring 2013?</p>
<p>And, had anyone who got waitlisted seen a scholarship letter yet? My thinking is we’d be on a waitlist for that as well, but what do I know?</p>
<p>Thanks for any advice!</p>
<p>Congratulations to remo1024 and son.</p>
<p>Congratulations also to dolcissimo who, on another thread, reports acceptances to Northwestern and the University of Michigan for MM in piano Performance with full tuition scholarships.</p>
<p>S got the letter informing him he’s waitlisted at NEC. When we get the DePaul package I will update the details of that admissions decision.</p>
<p>We’re done. </p>
<p>S has decided he will attend Lawrence University in the fall, they had the best combo of music, physics and scholarships/financial help. Plus they courted him some. And it’s not too far from home.</p>
<p>Congratulations to everyone, and I look forward to reading about everyone else’s choices. Now we get to start talking about what to buy for the dorm. :)</p>