McCain-Palin 08 victory?

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<p>McCain's been trying to shore up conservative support and a lot of these evangelicals are gushing over Palin. And who doesn't like her?
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<p>She was already earlier selected to be vetted
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<p>*So papers are being processsed as of now, check *:D</p>

<p>Kudlow's</a> Money Politic$: My Interview with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin</p>

<p>In an August 2008 interview, to the VP question, she's no vehemently denying the position outright ala Jindal. She wants to be in a position to get things done, and to get things done for Alaskans. Helping McCain win can't hurt that agenda :D</p>

<p>The</a> Pink Flamingo :: Could Sarah Palin Be "The One" We've Been Waiting For?</p>

<h1>McCain will soon consult with Palin on ANWR... hmm :)</h1>

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<p>What do you guys think? I think it'd be a cruise to victory.</p>

<p>It looks unlikely that Hillary will be picked. And I'm sure Obama wouldn't wanna **** off her supporters by picking another woman, clearly someone subordinate to her.</p>

<p>Palin will help cement disaffected Hillary voters.</p>

<p>She'll enthuse women of all spectrum, enthuse everyone, give them reason to listen to McCain</p>

<p>She'll enthuse evangelicals, as a pro-life candidate, one that's shown that she's meant it by not aborting her Downs Syndrome kid</p>

<p>She'll further add support to McCain's message of true reformers with actual results delivered... Big caveat is that right now it seems corruption charges against her have just deflated but they still seem suspicious and are susceptible to exploitation</p>

<p>She'll resonate with voters on energy with her tough talk for increased domestic drilling.</p>

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<p>Why she’s not that great of a choice:</p>

<p>1.) Many real conservatives wouldn’t want a woman on the ticket. I live in a very conservative state and I have heard many women agree with what Brooke Hogan said about a woman president and say they wouldn’t want any woman running the country.</p>

<p>2.) The corruption charges.</p>

<p>3.) Not very experienced and is younger than Obama. In fact, she arguably has less experience than Obama does. Anyway, if McCain chooses her he wouldn’t be able to go after Obama on the issue of experience as effectively.</p>

<p>4.) People vote for the person on the top of the ticket. I don’t think women who are voting for or considering voting for Obama would switch over to McCain simply because he put Palin on the ticket. Palin is VERY pro-life which essentially makes her anti-women’s rights.</p>

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<p>“What do you guys think? I think it’d be a cruise to victory.”</p>

<p>Is a republican victory the best political move for this country? </p>

<p>Do you honestly think McCain can help our nation, making it better for everyone, or can you say that maybe, just maybe, hes working for that 3% of Americans that earn more than millions annually?</p>

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<p>“cruise to victory”</p>

<p>Not at all. It would be a cruise to defeat. Yea, she may get some independent votes, but the conservative base would be completely turned off. First rule of politics (at least lately): secure your base. McCain already has a problem with that right now, so adding a female to the ticket would be suicide. Conservatives, as their name implies, aren’t much for drastic change. having a woman on the number 2 slot would cause a riff.</p>

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<p>5.) McCain looks old enough to be her father. Choosing her would make his age an even more importan issue.</p>

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<p>I don’t think it’s a Republican victory. I think it’s a McCain victory, the same guy that opposed the cheney energy bill with breaks for oil companies and incentives for corn oil that’s driving up the price of food. The same guy that supported the surge in Iraq when Dems wanted out yet we have success now. The same guy that sees that as the price of oil escalates, we have to look at all options, including drilling here. An option that Obama saw as dumb as 1st… But now willl accept a “compromise”. 1, to insinuate a compromise is to suggest that there is legitimacy in offshore, anwr, etc. </p>

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<li>Hillary had more ■■■■■■■ than Obama and so does Palin :smiley:
[YouTube</a> - McCain - Palin 08 - The Team You Can Trust](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjqZ_vvLNc]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjqZ_vvLNc)</li>
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<p>On the real, [Gallup</a> Daily: Obama Gets Slight Bounce With Clinton as VP](<a href=“Gallup Daily: Obama Gets Slight Bounce With Clinton as VP”>Gallup Daily: Obama Gets Slight Bounce With Clinton as VP)
“The five-day rolling average has McCain at 46% and Obama at 45%, exactly the same now for three nights running.” “The Wednesday night interviewing using this question wording showed the Obama-Clinton ticket with a slight lead over McCain, 50% to 45%.”</p>

<p>Also.. A “very” conservative state like say Utah, Alabama, would never vote for Obama.</p>

<p>There are also many racists in both parties too, but Obama’s still holding up. If poll after poll showed that voters would’ve voted for Clinton over McCain, I don’t see why Palin..in case of McCain dying.. wouldn’t be fit to serve.</p>

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<li><p>The corruption charges look instigated by the Dems, especially Obama supporters (cough, Alice Palmer, legalizing their way again). Nothing seems to be coming of it. She’s out in full force, on CNBC like she never did it. If she did, she would’ve denied it AND resigned :D</p></li>
<li><p>[Sarah</a> Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Sarah Palin - Wikipedia”>Sarah Palin - Wikipedia)
“Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from [b[1992** to 1996 and became a two-term mayor and city manager of Wasilla, one of Alaska’s fastest-growing communities. She was in office from 1996 to 2002.[9] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[7]”
“Then-Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission[10], where she served from 2003 to 2004 – until resigning in protest over what she perceived to be the “lack of ethics” of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders.”</p></li>
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<p>Arguably less than Obama’s… right. Where’s his history of actually getting anything done?</p>

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<li>How many people actually vote on the issue of abortion? How many women are for “women’s” right to abortion? I don’t know.But I’ll let you know that given the choice between completely banning abortions (except in health cases), I would rather spare the lives of raped/deformed kids than kill them (nasty pictures) so that their mothers can be spared the tragedy of giving birth. Life happens, somethings you can’t deal with, move on.</li>
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<p>Women will vote for their wallet and Palin’s message of domestic energy production will be golden.</p>

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<p>Interesting… Palin has never denied the VP position, she’s just denied publically wanting it. According to comments by insiders, Palin’s it. There’s links to records of a private plane leaving Anchorage to Middletown, not far from Dayton, where McCain and his VP will speak tomorrow.</p>

<p>We will know soon…</p>

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<p>pugfug90:</p>

<p>Congrats on being right. However, I don’t think McCain made a great choice.</p>

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I do</p>

<p>The tea leaves were right, heh</p>

<p>Anyway, my 1st post was a bit winded.</p>

<p>Again, I believe most people won’t fight for abortion, even though they support some form of it. But given the choice between a staunch supporter of babies and someone that’s in favor of “women’s right to choose” and aborting fetuses when they’re clearly developed, I think people will pick babies.</p>

<p>Also, she’s got exec experience as Alaskan governor, dealing with Russia and China I presume, just as Arnie of CA and Sonny Perdue, both governors, deal with other countries to help their states.</p>

<p>She’s a reformer that’s not afraid to even bust Republican balls, against earmarks like McCain.</p>

<p>Well, you can read the bios yourselves… I’m pumped! Obama campaign is pooping bricks I imagine.</p>

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<p>note: Hillary is NOT Palin. Hillary is Hillary. The most hardcore Hillary supporters aren’t feminists, they’re Hillary fans. What’s more, if McCain wins in November, 4 or 8 years down the road Palin would be the presumptive nominee, which is bad news for Hillary - no “history making” spin for her anymore. i think it might even turn Hillary supporters off voting for McCain.</p>

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<p>people always imagine what they like to believe. i don’t think any of the talking heads i’m seeing on TV right now actually agree with you.</p>

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<p>pugfug90:</p>

<p>She has zero foreign policy experience.</p>

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<p>I liked Hillary because she was tough and relatable. Obama is flimsy and out of touch.</p>

<p>Palin is the same, except she doesn’t have that baggage of people hating you for supporting her :D</p>

<p>She’ll do right for America, bringing us energy we need now to lessen the pain until technology comes, if at all. She’s fought corruption within her own party.</p>

<p>Unlike Hillary, who has sadly appeased to the Dean N C.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/080308/loc_312976901.shtml[/url]”>http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/080308/loc_312976901.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
That’s some big stuff. She’s DONE something. </p>

<p>What has Obama DONE related to foreign policy, besides opined that he’s always been against the war, except in 2004 he said he wasn’t sure?</p>

<p>All she needs is some brushing up on where Georgia is (lol). And to say that Palin has no foreign policy experience… What about Obama? If McCain passes away, she can easily pick someone knowledgeable to help her.</p>

<p>Kind of balances out, except when you consider that Palin has done things for the state of Alaska.</p>

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<p>Palin is… far from the same as Hillary. You can’t say she’s got experience. She’s got zero name recognition. And, hell no, Hillary supporters aren’t gonna ruin Hillary’s chances in 2012 or 2016.</p>

<p>Also, it’s funny how you try to inflate Palin’s accomplishments. Firstly, yes, she DOES have zero foreign policy accomplishments. You’ll see all the talking heads acknowledging that in no time, as much as you would cover your ears. What she did had nothing to do with foreign policy matters! She has about as much foreign policy experience as an executive in a multinational corporation. Nobody in the country except Alaskans cares about what she did in the article you provided. And who cares about Alaska?</p>

<p>Foreign policy is not her forte. She was picked for her appeal to the conservative base, and, for some reason, the fact that she’s a woman. The latter might well turn out to be a gross miscalculation.</p>

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<p>That’s a reason to vote for McCain?</p>

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<p>I don’t see the Hillary-Palin parallel other than they both happen to have the same anatomical parts. I don’t know why people who were going to vote for Hillary are going to move to the complete opposite side of the political spectrum to vote McCain-Palin. </p>

<p>I don’t think it’s a victory by any stretch of the imagination and he could’ve picked a much better candidate, but let’s face it, he did it for purely political reasons which is something he claims to be staunchly against.</p>

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<p>pugfug90, congrats on being right. I know why McCain picked her. The reason was three-fold.</p>

<p>A) He was losing and hard. If you looked at the state-by-state breakdown, McCain had a very small chance of winning.
B) Attract Hillary supporters.
C) Inject life into his campaign and make it more favorable to the media. To be honest, the media loves Obama-now that McCain picked a woman the media will be giving McCain a whole lot of coverage which is part of the reason McCain was losing.</p>

<p>Analysis: Palin is unexperienced to the extreme. McCain can not actively go after Obama’s lack of experience when you have a Fmr. mayor of a town of less than 9000 and a governor for less than 2 years of a small (population wise) state. That being said, I think for reasons 2 and 3 McCain made a great choice. If McCain had picked a boring Tim Pawlenty or a (enemy) Mitt Romney he likely would have lost barring some huge Obama gaffe or controversy. Women who were supporting Hillary because she was poised to be the next female President will flock to McCain, and women are very important in the Democratic base. This however can backfire for the reasons NewJack stated. And to be honest, McCain had to pick a VP who was ready on Day 1 to be President considering McCain’s age and previous health history. That is a fair requirement! I had the same for Obama considering even though he’s healthy, he’s a frickin target I’m sure. Obama fit the requirement (playing it safe with Biden who is very ready to be President if nothing else) while McCain didn’t in my opinion (but played a potential high risk, high reward card). This will be interesting…but I must say McCain was if nothing else, courageous in making this pick. This can backfire, and big time.</p>

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<p>The fact that anyone would reference Brooke Hogan when it comes to politics causes me to question anything they have to say.</p>

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<p>Agreed. Good thing she’s only slated to be the VP and not the POTUS, like Obama, who has only slightly more then zero foreign policy experience.</p>

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<p>Nope. She’s slated to be POTUS when you’re dealing with McCain (just as with Obama considering he’s a walking target). If McCain’s elected he’ll be the oldest President and he’s had cancer before. There is a sizable chance that he may be incapacitated or die during his Presidency. McCain’s VP is inexperienced to the extreme.</p>

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<p>If I was a Hillary supporter, specifically a woman I wouldn’t be that moved by Palin as the pick. McCain is making a gross miscalculation by assuming women Hilary supporters will flock to the Republicans just because he has a women VP(talk about out of touch). Hillary and Palin couldn’t be more different, so unless Hillary supporters really want to hit the Democrats hard because of their bitterness, Palin’s appointing won’t really be that big of a deal. Her lack of experience also takes the zing out of the argument that Obama is too inexperienced. This essentially leaves McCain in a slightly worse position as the advantage of one of his biggest attack points is diminished.</p>

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<p>With this pick, John McCain shows that he puts himself and his personal victory over the welfare of the country. At age 72 with prior bouts with skin cancer, McCain should have the ambulance on speed dial. And who does he entrust his potential office to? A hockey mom from the most remote state in the union.</p>