<p>DE Shaw never verified my SAT scores… and I dont think it’s possible to verify anyway… collegeboard only store scores up to 5 years I think… I am guess it’s one of the only things you can lie about…but it’s not worth it unless your score is very low</p>
<p>i meant to pm you but message function isnt working. </p>
<p>anyway, it doesnt matter how you are in real life. You could be as nice and as humble as you say. It doesnt matter though. If the credentials you listed here are real, it is not hard to equate your username with the real person. </p>
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<li><p>There are not that many schools that come even close to AESDCH in the nation, off the top of my head I can come up with 10… Lawrenceville, Groton, Milton, and the NYC privates. The field isn’t that big. So there aren’t that many schools to look for.</p></li>
<li><p>Now throw in, “valedictorian heading to michigan”, which would be really rare for a school of this prestige. This makes it really easy.</p></li>
<li><p>Cross reference with Sci Olympiad gold medalists list of previous year. Now we know who you are.</p></li>
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<p>I really don’t care and don’t want to know. But just a caution. This is not a threat or anything, if anything I am trying to help. You **** off enough people here and someone might just be dedicated enough to do some digging</p>
<p>p.s turn on your inbox</p>
<p>bearcats, just curious, for the 4 kids at Hotchkiss whose the sons/daughters of the Forbes 100, do they have security guards protecting them? </p>
<p>I always wonder at what point should a family hire security guards.</p>
<p>Bearcats, thank you for your advice. </p>
<p>What high schools abroad have strong representation on wall street? I only know that UWC is pretty good.</p>
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<p>This is a humongous if. This is an anonymous forum and there are a ton of attention seeking ■■■■■■ like Number 1. I wouldn’t be too worried about anything real in what he’s saying.</p>
<p>Number 1, the mistake you are making is that of universal generalization. Are you aware of it?(I know you are a genius, but maybe such a scientifically inclined individual such as yourself has been too busy curing cancer and not taking any philosophy classes)</p>
<p>Let me inform you. It is a logical fallacy and you have been caught by it hook line and sinker. You are putting too much weight on test scores, when they are not indicative of a persons intelligence. Although there is a correlation between ACT,GPA,and SAT it is not absolute. This can be proven with much anecdotal evidence. I know underachieving genius’ and overachieving idiots. I am sure many others can supply more information. Anyway I ask a question of you…
Have you talked to every student at Michigan?
Have you compared your IQ scores?
Have you taken a class yet?</p>
<p>How do you know you are any smarter than the average student at UofM?
How do you “know” that “about 75% of Umich students aren’t that bright” or w/e it was you exactly said?
Statistics? Well, my brilliant friend, I am sure you have taken a statistics class, correct? Because you know everything…Anyway, since you have, I am sure you know how easy it is to manipulate statistics. So you know they can be easily misread and misinterpreted.</p>
<p>You are building a hierarchy with statistics as the central point of argumentation(although to be fair you did use some subjective evidence)</p>
<p>Get off your pedestal. Maybe you are smarter than the average bear. You might just be arguing from a self built mountain of self importance…</p>
<p>I will concede one point to you-many Umich students on CC do have extremely high opinions of themselves and the selectivity of the school. You are doing the same thing as them on the opposite end of the spectrum. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.</p>
<p>You claimed that the point of this thread was "I keep on reading members telling other members who ask for “chances” that Michigan’s a reach school for them. Hard stats tells me that Michigan’s not a reach for most ppl on CC, especially since it also has rolling admission.</p>
<p>I like UMich and chose it over USC, WUSTL, NYU, Emory, etc. But correct me if I’m mistaken, Michigan’s is very easy to get accepted into and the bottom 75% of UMich are not very smart"</p>
<p>but all you have “proven” is that you have a high opinion of yourself.</p>
<p>If michigan was easy to get into then it would be somewhere in the 50%+ acceptance rate. It isn’t. You are comparing two unlike things(HYPSM VS PUBLIC SCHOOL)</p>
<p>“Anyway I ask a question of you…
Have you talked to every student at Michigan?
Have you compared your IQ scores?
Have you taken a class yet?”</p>
<p>No
Yes
Yes - took classes at Penn. 4.0.</p>
<p>“How do you know you are any smarter than the average student at UofM?”
Better stats -> more likely to do better than other students.</p>
<p>“How do you “know” that “about 75% of Umich students aren’t that bright” or w/e it was you exactly said?”
Stats from UM website. Most of kids who talk about how difficult it is falls within the middle 50% range (this is personal anecdotes, however)</p>
<p>“Statistics? Well, my brilliant friend, I am sure you have taken a statistics class, correct? Because you know everything…Anyway, since you have, I am sure you know how easy it is to manipulate statistics. So you know they can be easily misread and misinterpreted.”</p>
<p>Explain to me how middle 50% can be misinterpreted. Graphs I can understand.</p>
<p>“Get off your pedestal. Maybe you are smarter than the average bear. You might just be arguing from a self built mountain of self importance…”</p>
<p>I didn’t talk about my stats until other ppl started to question my stats, saying that I probably fall into middle 50%.</p>
<p>“If michigan was easy to get into then it would be somewhere in the 50%+ acceptance rate. It isn’t. You are comparing two unlike things(HYPSM VS PUBLIC SCHOOL).”</p>
<p>It’s ~50%. Not that much a big difference.</p>
<p>“It is a logical fallacy and you have been caught by it hook line and sinker. You are putting too much weight on test scores, when they are not indicative of a persons intelligence.”</p>
<p>I’ve already said that I meant to say the admitted students have lower stats.</p>
<p>you’ve compared your IQ with other Umich students? lol</p>
<p>You are misinterpreting the stats by giving them too much weight and credibility as a measure of intelligence.</p>
<p>and 8% difference is large. You are the one talking about importance of numbers and you are rounding up for no real reason. the .3 average gpa difference and 2 point act difference that you are making a big deal about matter but not your rough rounding of 42%(if you 4.0’d a class at penn you should know 42 rounds down)</p>
<p>and you are still committing the logical fallacy.admitting to it means nothing. if you admit to it then you are de facto admitting your argument as false…</p>
<p>it’s like saying “I understand I am comparing two unlike things and making a broad generalization that does not apply in the context I am using it, however, my argument is still correct”</p>
<p>what??</p>
<p>Number 0, come back and post again when you get a 4.0 at Michigan after a year. You are a dime a dozen.</p>
<p>It would be entertaining if Number 1 started a thread like this in the college search section in the top forums area. Since it is anonymous as he states, I wonder if he has the nerve to be taken to task for being so much better than everyone else and only going to a school of Michigan’s caliber.</p>
<p>Number 1:</p>
<p>I’m one of the people who you consider stupid. You’re the people that I’m scared of competing against at University of Michigan. However, my fear forced me to review my high school preparation and see where I went wrong. After writing them down, I figured out how to fix them. You might still beat me, but it won’t he as easy as you think it is.</p>
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I “loled” at this. From what you say on this thread, you’re extremely cocky and stupid for demeaning you peers.</p>
<p>Just shut the heck up.</p>
<p>Cmon number 1, what’s you IQ score that you’re so proud of? Why aren’t you like running MENSA with your obviously superior intelligence? Why were there no ivies on your brag list of schools?</p>
<p>“you’ve compared your IQ with other Umich students? lol”
I thought you mean’t if I compared my IQ with SAT. Be more clear with your question LOL.</p>
<p>“You are misinterpreting the stats by giving them too much weight and credibility as a measure of intelligence.”</p>
<p>Many bankers/MBB consultants, there are tens of thousands of them, are millionaires. Most of them did well in HS to get into target schools. Most CEOs and rich ppl are also graduates of elite colleges, so they must’ve done well in HS. Also, from personal anecdotes, ppl with low stats often do stupid things in real life and don’t realize it.</p>
<p>“and 8% difference is large”</p>
<p>UMich’s acceptance rate in 2009 was 49%. Alexandre probably has the link. PM him if you want to verify. You need to do more research.</p>
<p>“You are misinterpreting the stats by giving them too much weight and credibility as a measure of intelligence.”</p>
<p>So philosopher, how much weight and credibility are you supposed to give to numbers like middle 50% and percentages?</p>
<p>“and you are still committing the logical fallacy.admitting to it means nothing. if you admit to it then you are de facto admitting your argument as false…”</p>
<p>I don’t give a crap about what philosophy teaches you. I only care about getting a prestigious job and be rich. You can be aristotle if you like but you’ll still be poor, while I remain in the private elite circle.</p>
<p>“Number 0, come back and post again when you get a 4.0 at Michigan after a year. You are a dime a dozen.”</p>
<p>I already got a 4.0 from Penn’s summer class (competing with regular undergrads). I fail to see how UMich is more rigorous than UPenn, especially if I can outcompete most Penn kids on a curve and the student body and UM is not on par with that at Penn. Also, read posts carefully. I already explained a dime a dozen is not possible in a previous post.</p>
<p>"I’m one of the people who you consider stupid. You’re the people that I’m scared of competing against at University of Michigan. However, my fear forced me to review my high school preparation and see where I went wrong. After writing them down, I figured out how to fix them. You might still beat me, but it won’t he as easy as you think it is. "</p>
<p>I don’t care how easy it will be for me to beat you. As long as I can and will.</p>
<p>"I “loled” at this. From what you say on this thread, you’re extremely cocky and stupid for demeaning you peers.</p>
<p>Just shut the heck up."</p>
<p>Just because you’re my peer does not mean I can’t think you’re stupid. Ask the philospher about the logical fallacy you’re making. On internet forums, I can be as arrogant as I want. In real life, I’m smart enough to keep a low profile and be humble. That’s why I’m popular in school and yet still have a good time releasing how I feel. See, if you aren’t a moron, you will be able to realize that. Just get the **** out of my thread. Stupid ppl are allowed. No morons please.</p>
<p>“Cmon number 1, what’s you IQ score that you’re so proud of? Why aren’t you like running MENSA with your obviously superior intelligence? Why were there no ivies on your brag list of schools?”</p>
<p>Because UM is much easier to get a 4.0 and outcompete the 95% of inferior students for OCR. Better?</p>
<p>“Because UM is much easier to get a 4.0 and outcompete the 95% of inferior students for OCR. Better?”</p>
<p>Oh this is classic!</p>
<p>bearcats, I think you’re right, my pm function really doesn’t work so I can’t pm you but here it is.</p>
<p>I think your profile is also pretty easy to identify who you are so you should probably take some measures to protect yourself.</p>
<p>Hotchkiss graduate 2007
EGL
2009 BB Intern at Housten
Enginnering class of 2011, rising junior majoring in Industrial Operations and Engineering
Cross-reference with former USAMO
DE Shaw offer as a programmin intern - DE Shaw offer alone limits you down to a few ppl, cross reference with programming intern!!
And if any of your friends who know you well read that your dad is McK and you uncle is GS, then they pretty much can find out who you are.</p>
<p>You ****ed off enough ppl in a former thread discussing how econ and ross classes are much easier than engineering so ppl already did the digging on you? So I recommend you take some measures.</p>
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<p>Ah, so you have a fear of failure! I get it! You have low self-esteem which is why you feel the need to put others down. Might I suggest some counseling for that?</p>
<p>“On internet forums, I can be as arrogant as I want. In real life, I’m smart enough to keep a low profile and be humble. That’s why I’m popular in school and yet still have a good time releasing how I feel.”</p>
<p>This made me laugh so ****ing hard. </p>
<p>Honestly you are very fake. I hope your friends see through your bull ****. Assuming you have friends that is…</p>
<p>What next, you are going to tell us how many face book friends you have? Keep on with your endless ranting. This thread is pretty useless now.</p>
<p>Alexandre and Bearcats have done a good job tearing down your useless, baseless arguments. They have also provided others with insight about college and other things.</p>
<p>It doesn’t matter how you perceive me Entertainer and roman. As long as my family’s contacts in the private elite circle can get me top internships, and be rich, I don’t really care about how you think.</p>
<p>Who cares about being fake? I’m a realist. There are plenty of fakes in the private elite circle and you know what? They still live a much better life than you ever will.</p>
<p>Bottom line (my opinion, whether you agree or not): UMich is pretty easy to get into for anyone with the criteria I listed in a previous post.</p>
<p>Hey, I’m going to Michigan to, so me and you have the same chances of making it big. So in essence you can’t make any assumptions that you will be more successful than anyone else, especially since most people on this thread are attending, attended or plan to attend Michigan. </p>
<p>Many people have different interests in life. If your interests are getting rich at any costs then go for it. I have a different vision. Helping a community, being financially stable and happy. I have a strong interest in neurosurgery (Sanjay Gupta/Ben Carson are my role models). Everyone attending Michigan, is attending for different reasons. You don’t have to care how I perceive you. I’m not expecting you to. Just stop ranting on this forum about your personal achievements and stick to the topic of the thread.</p>
<p>How are you a realist?</p>
<p>You can’t express what you are actually feeling/thinking in real life.</p>