<p>wow u guys all like to stereotype and judge. as i mentioned, Miss NH goes to my school and she is no bimbo. She is really intelligent, she takes of her mom who has cancer, she latino, and she wants to become a doctor. I don't like pagaents much either, but to each his own. If u have nothing to say, then just shut the hell up.</p>
<p>Well obviously I don't have "nothing to say", because I said something. I wasn't talking about book smarts.</p>
<p>An Asian girl needs to win!</p>
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wow u guys all like to stereotype and judge. as i mentioned, Miss NH goes to my school and she is no bimbo. She is really intelligent, she takes of her mom who has cancer, she latino, and she wants to become a doctor. I don't like pagaents much either, but to each his own. If u have nothing to say, then just shut the hell up.
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<p>What it really comes down to is that Miss USA and Miss Teen USA are BEAUTY pagaents and nothing more. They're not looking for future politicians or future leaders of America, and no matter what they say - they're not looking for role models for other teens. They're looking for beautiful women with approachable personalities - whether they have substantive opinions or not. The states choose the most well-rounded individual of those who enter because they seek to create an admirable icon. "Look! This girl is not just beautiful - she's nice and smart and she 's gotten all of these awards! Don't you want to be like her?" The problem is, these are not the most well-rounded or the brightest because those girls don't have time to enter into a beauty competition. Spending that much time on beauty pagaents is not going to get you into a top university or a top job position. And yes, becoming Miss USA or Miss World or Miss Universe may open up doors for acting and modelling - but the most well-rounded individuals are generally not going to risk so much time, energy and money in such a risky business. It's just a beauty contest covered up with this superficial idea of being a role model, a leader, the hope for the future. I have problems with beauty contests because they do objectify women (as well as men), but it's worse when it's glossed over with pseudo-intellectualism.</p>
<p>Well actually, filmxoxo, sry I meant nothing<em>nice</em> to say, but anyway. You said "they are not the brightest crayons in the box". That IS stereotyping, its pretty much the definition.And the pagaent is an opportunity so they;re not stupid to participate in it. I know that Miss NH wanted this to help pay for college and so she'd have the opportunity to help others during her reign. Miss NH who i know is a great, smart, ambitious person who is highly accomplished and who wants to be a doctor because her mom is a cancer patient. I am surprised no one agrees with me. I'd think others would be offended too.</p>
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good for her, but that doesn't make her the most well-rounded or the brightest. Nor does her ambition to be a doctor. She wouldn't be participating in the competition if she wasn't in any way ambitious. Miss USA competitions take time and energy.The question is whether or not she's REALLY one of the fifty most ambitious, intelligent, athletic, talented and most highly accomplished beauties of her age in the country. I would venture to say she's probably not. (see my above post)</p>
<p>i guess I'm in the minority here excepting GreenDayFan, but there really isn't anything wrong with <em>most</em> of the girls who do pageants. I competed in the Miss Teen Indiana pageant in November. It was a very humbling experience, at times painful (we all wore our stage shoes for rehearsals and were ready to throw them at the director by the end of each day), but very rewarding. </p>
<p>They pick the winner based on her chances at winning the national competition. The girl from Indiana was Haitian or something like that, and she could talk about how the poverty she saw on her visits to that country changed her life (or at least she said they did), and that was something that could win over judges in an interview.</p>
<p>I dont see the actual pageant ppl myself so I can't say what theyre like in person and that probably most ppls matter with this issue.Therefore,we can only judge on what we do get to see and what I see is a bunch of girls displaying cliches on TV like "I want world peace" etc etc.Honestly its daft and it makes ordinary ppl feel inadequate,it encourages ppl to become more self obsessed and its so unfair.Over-weight,short,spotty,lankey people look at these girls and measure themselves to them and this is were insecurity sets in.I think it persuades young girls to change for the wrong reasons which would probably lead to anorexia,deficiencies or organ failures...this sounds a little dramatic but it can happen.</p>
<p>I think you're right BC. I really wouldn't mind all that much if they simply kept it a beauty pagaent. But the idea that you need to be physically beautiful to be a leader/role model is entirely superficial.</p>
<p>Superficial,Artificial....pathetic!I watched a programme about a 4 year old pageant girl in America!What a waste,now I'm sure that an awful lot of really young girls are attempting the same lifestyle as her.Too be quite frank I believe that they make too big a fuss over beauty pageants and its far too commercial.If they kept it low key,then that would make alotta ppl happy.I totally agree with you tho LadyinRed that they should keep it simply as a beauty pageant.</p>
<p>Miss teen DC just graduated from my school</p>
<p>last year she was first runner up, and then this year she won</p>
<p>She came up in assembly both times with her tiara and sash thingy to "thank all of us" and then cried as a good miss whoever should</p>
<p>(ok, that was a little harsh. but i don't have that much respect for beauty pagents)</p>
<p>u guys, i dont think you are understanding me here. I am not saying that the pagaents arent superificial. All I am saying is that we should not deride the girls who participate in these pagaents and make stereotypical remarks. These girls are doing this for scholarship money for college, so they can make an impact and travel the world, and because it is an honor so matter how superficial the pagaent is. And many of these girls are intelligent and have ambitious and have futures beyond "being in shampoo commercials". Someone said they;re "not the brightest crayons in the box" which is just like saying all cheerleaders and jocks are "dumb" or black teens are "criminals". It is stereotyping, and I'm not saying u need to like the pagaent, but have respect for the girls in them.</p>
<p>There are many strippers who are only working to support their family or put themselves through college. I respect them for doing what they have to to get by, but I don't respect the job. Same with pageant girls. I think that someone has to be pretty unempowered to agree to parade themselves around in a bikini. This is my opinion. Green Day Fan thinks this is awesome. Whatever. We are all entitled to different opinions. Thats all. I don't need someone to tell me to "shut the hell up", and I wouldn't say the same to someone whose views I disagree with. I suppose this is the difference between us.</p>
<p>***! I do not think this is awesome. Talk about putting words in my mouth. I just finished saying that I think pagaents ARE superficial. I said i respect the girls in them, particularly because I know one of them and she's an intelligent, good-hearted, person not a bimbo like some have implied. And I regret saying "shut the hell up" but i was offended that people can say such negative things about people they dont even know. I respect people's views, but I took the stereotyping and hurtful remarks as an attack against someone who I know to be a great, smart , good hearted person.</p>
<p>miss ohio is ugly</p>
<p>lol.......</p>
<p>"I promise, most of them are overachieving type-A personalities just like CC people. Only prettier."</p>
<p>Ouch, lion.</p>
<p>The vast majority of the contestants wanted to do something in broadcasting, fashion, showbusiness...less than 20% or so wanted to do something like law, teaching, medicine...</p>
<p>That tells me a whole lot.</p>