<p>Slipper1234, you are mixing apples and oranges (and so does USNWR). Liberal arts colleges and research universities are simply not in the same category. Even if we forget their prestige for research, their top graduate and professional programs, research universities provide a VERY differerent undergraduate experience from that in the LACS. If you want your lectures to be delivered by well-known faculty at the cutting edge of research (yes, they do teach, and include research advances in their lectures), if you want to start undergraduate research early, and join one of many groups doing exciting work at some of the frontiers of science, then you want to attend a research university, like NYU, UC Berkeley, Columbia, and many others. Moreover, their faculty, because of their (inter)national reputation, will be able to open many doors for you later on, anywhere. You just won't have these opportunities, on such a high level, at LACs. This is not their strength. If these are not your priorities, then you may very well be happier at LACs, and they might be more appropriate for you. It depends on what you want.</p>
<p>So, it's pointless to argue which undergraduate schools are better, research universities or LACs. They are qualitatively different, and neither can be the best for all people. They do NOT offer the same experience and the same kind of learning, and are NOT intended for the same type of undergraduate students. </p>
<p>Finally, students graduating from NYU have no problems getting admitted to the very best graduate and professional schools anywhere, and they do it in large numbers. As for the recruitment, you must be kidding. It is hard to imagine having more career and recruitment opportunities than what NYU, in the heart of New York city, provides.</p>
<p>More recruiters are willing to "trek" to Medford, MA; Hanover, NH; and Washington, D.C. to get the more qualified students from more prestigious universities than you seem to believe.</p>
<p>We're not saying NYU is a bad school. In fact, it's a great school. However, don't go over your head and say that it's a better school than Dartmouth, Georgetown, Tufts, and the like, because that's just incorrect. No matter how hard it may be for you to personally accept.</p>
<p>Lolabelle, you make strong statements without supporting them with any evidence - bad habit. You say I am incorrect in stating that NYU, on the average, has better faculty than Dartmouth, Georgetown, Tufts, etc. Why? What are your arguments? For mine, go back to my post of Nov. 10, and the rankings listed there. NYU faculty publishes more in best research journals, wins more high awards and honors, has more members in the National Academy of Sciences and other prestigious societies, has more science funding. All this makes them stronger faculty than those of the other institutions. As a result, NYU ranks well above them in terms of research quality, output and reputation. These are the fact. And what are yours? How do you measure the quality of faculty?</p>
<p>Your second statement, that Tisch is the only reputable school at NYU, also has a minor problem with facts. It this were true, then how would NYU place among top 20-25 research universities in the US, in both those rankings, which actually downplay the arts, and hence Tisch? Doesn't this mean that many NYU schools must have a very good reputation, to say the least? Or, what is your definition of reputation?</p>
<p>Atnyu, NONE of the elite consulting firms and far fewer of the top banks recruit at NYU. Its grad placement lags the aforementioned schools significantly (top 10 vs. not even in the top 25 for NYU). Recruiters look for prestige, and NYU is not even close to as prestigious as the liberal arts type schools. Grad schools look for good recommendations and UNDERGRAD rep, NYU lags. Who cares if you have a famous professor if you only see them 50 feet away and get essentially taught by TAs. The students at the LACy schools might geta slightly less prestigious professor, but they will probably have dinner at their house, get much better recommendations, and a better education. </p>
<p>Also, NYU's top schools are largely professional (Law, med, etc) which has very little to do with undergrad. I got my MBA at a top 5 school and I don;t think I even had one experience working with an undergrad.</p>
<p>Bored and wasting time on this forum. Don't want an argument but I'll speak my tiny piece on NYU. Tisch is for all intensive purposes an LAC or a conservatory. I mean as a Tisch student, I'm earning a B.F.A. and taking the greater portion of my courses at Tisch with amazing faculty and a name that DEFINITELY means something in the theatre world. And I'm not gonna lie... I'm not too thrilled with the liberal arts offerings... I don't like being taught by a T.A. or being reassured my upper level liberal arts courses will be small in size when in reality that means they'll have 30-40 students in them. That aside, I am in close contact with my Tisch professors. They invite us to come to see their work performed. I know when I leave here I'll have a conservatory education that will be respected. Honestly as much as this sounds like Tisch elitism... I only came to NYU for Tisch. If I'd wanted liberal arts I would've looked somewhere else.
This was one-sided so to shine some more light on the NYU student body I will say it's getting better every year. More and more top students are being attracted by the city. I know someone who turned down Princeton for CAS and someone who turned down Brown. Whether the quality of the liberal arts education is improving along with the students being put through it- that remains to be seen. However I do recall getting some email from President Sexton that was sent out to all students describing how NYU was working to improve its liberal arts offerings so I suppose we shall see.</p>
<p>Northwestern, UChicago, and Michigan are underrated in my opinion. People generally view an education from the Midwest inferior to one from the East...</p>
<p>For one, I don't think Emory should be above Georgetown. That, in itself, makes Emory "overrated." But in the end, I don't believe Emory shines in enough areas to be considered a top 20 school.</p>
<p>how's rutgers, especially the honors college for poli sci
and do you think the top women's colleges-bryn mawr, wellesley, and smith specifically, are underrated?</p>