<p>and lastly, the school ur in, i think i read ur in ILR</p>
<p>has one of the LOWEST ranges of any school w/ in cornell</p>
<p>1270-1440, there u go buddy</p>
<p>i think cornell is a wonderful school, but half the things u say are completely substantiated wat-so-ever, at least i provide facts and stats</p>
<p>everything that works not in ur favor, u dismiss it</p>
<p>everything that does, u point to</p>
<p>I think being in Evanston gives NU the college town feel while you can go to Chicago for special activities and nights on the town. I lived in Evanston and many NU students were downtown on weekends. Evanston has its own fine collection of restaurants, coffee houses, stores etc. within walking distance of the campus. It also has fine beaches for the summer fun with NU having a beach right on campus.</p>
<p>"everything that works not in ur favor, u dismiss it</p>
<p>everything that does, u point to"</p>
<p>-This is always the case with him when he starts blasting NU</p>
<p>Like TourGuide said, this is arguing 'Rachel McAdams' and 'Jessica Alba'--neither Northwestern nor Cornell is the metaphorical 'Kathy Griffin.'</p>
<p>Also, I agree with Brand_182--if you want to compare, program-by-program is the way to go.</p>
<p>"700-800 for critical reading, 38 percent
700-800 for math, 59 percent</p>
<p>700-800 for verbal, 53 percent
700-800 for math, 63 percent"</p>
<p>I take it you were not among that "53%" that scored above a 700 on the SAT verbal section as you seem to not realize you're comparing 2 different tests to try and prove your point. Read what you posted closely and you'll see what I mean. </p>
<p>"630-730 for Verbal
680-780 for math</p>
<p>there u go, 1310-1510, THUS, ur argument that Cornell has higher SATs for just these schools is full of it once again"</p>
<p>here where you're not exactly right. Posted on Cornell documents (and thusly confirmed by several members on CC), A&S's SAT averages were correct as I posted before. You seem to think that adding the two numbers given will give you the correct range for SATs, when in reality you cannot add them like that. Having all of the separate verbal scores and separate math scores and then just adding them together does not equal the average COMBINED scores of students. Regarless, NU and Cornell are both within one standard deviation of each other. Also, going by what you say Cornell ranks higher on US news despite having a weaker student body ... ouch!</p>
<p>"and lastly, the school ur in, i think i read ur in ILR</p>
<p>has one of the LOWEST ranges of any school w/ in cornell</p>
<p>1270-1440, there u go buddy"</p>
<p>yeah, i work admissions for ILR too and we tend to prefer students with substantial experience in related fields since ... we find that there's much higher of a correlation between "student body strength" in regards to demonstrated interest and experience than SAT scores. SAT is intended to predict one's first semester in college, when in reality there's not much of a strong correlation at all (i forget the study's name, but i believe the correlation was about .15 - that number provided to me in my stats class). You can call admissions yourself if you want to (i wont be there for winter break). </p>
<p>I can tell i've gotten to you by the fact you're trying to mock me and the school I'm in (the next step will be straight to ad hominem for you). Your little attacks make me pleased to see that my arguments have been effective. </p>
<p>"This is always the case with him when he starts blasting NU"</p>
<p>this only happens when people really believe that NU is better than a school like Cornell.</p>
<p>"yeah, i work admissions for ILR too and we tend to prefer students with substantial experience in related fields since ... we find that there's much higher of a correlation between "student body strength" in regards to demonstrated interest and experience than SAT scores. SAT is intended to predict one's first semester in college, when in reality there's not much of a strong correlation at all (i forget the study's name, but i believe the correlation was about .15 - that number provided to me in my stats class). You can call admissions yourself if you want to (i wont be there for winter break)."</p>
<p>-See, there is is again, using bs to make your point. 'What, low SAT scores?' 'That's because our school doesn't care about SAT scores'..... yeah right.... You take the student body you have, not the student body you would like to have.</p>
<p>"Also, going by what you say Cornell ranks higher on US news despite having a weaker student body ... ouch!"</p>
<p>And the last 4 years of US News ranking NU higher means what to you.....? Are you seriously going to start gloating because of the new ranking? Please....</p>
<p>Dante's worst circle of Hell: In a tavern sipping a warm Michelob Ultra, sitting on a bar stool in between Gomestar and Foryourenjoyment the week the new US News college issue comes out.</p>
<p>"See, there is is again, using bs to make your point. 'What, low SAT scores?' 'That's because our school doesn't care about SAT scores'..... yeah right.... You take the student body you have, not the student body you would like to have"</p>
<p>the student body in ilr is ideal. I'm not using BS, i work for them, i'm right, call them if you think i'm wrong (this is an open invitation for anybody). The same can be applied for the hotel school and for the architecture program at Cornell - again, i invite anybody who doubts me to call up admissions yourself and hear the same thing i've been saying. </p>
<p>"Dante's worst circle of Hell: In a tavern sipping a warm Michelob Ultra, sitting on a bar stool in between Gomestar and Foryourenjoyment the week the new US News college issue comes out"</p>
<p>i don't own a copy of the rankings (i have to look up old threads if i need them for anything), never have had a copy, and probably won't anytime in the future. I just enjoy healthy debate, especially against NU students :) And please, I much prefer wine to beer - and Sancerre at that.</p>
<p>I'm sure the argument would occur first in Latin, then switch to Greek, Hebrew and ultimately French...when the slaps with gloves occur and seconds are named.</p>
<p>go argue on another thread</p>
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That was TourGuide?!?! I'm impressed, even though I prefer the fiddle player. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Oh my freaking god. Both Cornell and Northwestern are great schools. Can't you just agree on that?</p>
<p>TourGuide's use of makeup is amazing! One of the benefits of a liberal education. </p>
<p>Personally, however, I like Meav.</p>
<p>"the student body in ilr is ideal. I'm not using BS, i work for them, i'm right, call them if you think i'm wrong (this is an open invitation for anybody). The same can be applied for the hotel school and for the architecture program at Cornell - again, i invite anybody who doubts me to call up admissions yourself and hear the same thing i've been saying."</p>
<p>What you're not understanding is that just about ALL colleges will say that they don't put that much emphasis on SAT scores; most schools promise a holistic admissions process- even schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc- and ALL of these have higher SAT scores than both NU and Cornell. If ILR, or any school for that matter, truly didn't care about test scores, they would not be required, or would be optional at best. Northwestern has several specialty schools, much like Cornell, in fact, 42% of the school is neither in A&S nor Engineering, but I don't delude myself into believing that that this fact means that only scores from these two schools are legit.</p>
<p>"the only thing UChicago does that Duke and Penn don't is depress its kids....Chicago isn't better than either of them academically, and lacks alot in terms of fun and quality of life...just my opinion but I think most would agree"</p>
<p>This is pretty ridiculous. Duke is basically a huge high school. From what friends at Duke have told me (in addition to what I've read in Rolling Stone and the whole lax thing), Duke is where all the smart preppy kids go to college. </p>
<p>Chicago kids aren't generally depressed, and they all have fun just as much as kids at any other school. They're just intelligent enough to have fun in multiple ways, since going out and getting drunk every night gets old.</p>
<p>didnt know where to post this question, but im trying to figure out whether to apply to middlebury or williams, any ideas on pros or cons of either?</p>
<p>"the only thing UChicago does that Duke and Penn don't is depress its kids....Chicago isn't better than either of them academically"wrong i'm sorry but academically chicago is better than duke....</p>
<p>I agree. I think Duke is overrated personally - in at least the fact that, in the undergraduate area, it should not be ranked above Chicago, Columbia, or Dartmouth. I don't know how they pulled that one off.</p>