<p>Hartt does participate in fed programs such as pell grant and fed student loans but don’t expect need based aid from Hartt because it will only be in the form of talent scholarship which can be up to tuition. However, their literature does state that the average scholarship is about $7500. So even if you have a low EFC(estimated Family Contribution) determined by FAFSA, you will not receive any other institutional grants or need based funds from Hartt other than the talent award. This is probably a fairer method to distribute a limited pool of funds but can make Hartt out of reach for those with higher need.</p>
<p>Hartt has (still I think) an early action application.
Auditions in early Dec? and decisions including merit awards by Christmas.</p>
<p>The talent awards can be generous. It is nice having an acceptance and award early in the game and student does not have to commit till Spring.</p>
<p>The early notification is nice! However, some of the larger merit awards do not announce until the spring (although you do get the acceptance and informed that you are in the running for money). Regardless of where you are applying, I heartily recommend including at least one early notifier in the mix…make the rest of the season MUCH less stressful.</p>
<p>Application deadline for Hartt for Early Notification (audition in early December) is November 1.</p>
<p>My D is applying to 8 music schools for vocal performance (and some LACs and “regular” universities just in case) and I’ve been watching the threads on CC for about 9 months. With November just around the corner and early review auditions close behind that means my D’s audition experience is about to begin. It’s exciting! The thing I’m am most afraid of is illness-- yikes! I’ve seen that discussed elsewhere on CC and we will do what we can 
As for the rest-- she will do her thing and we shall see what happens! I think I’m as ready to get started as she is! All the info on this site and the wise words of those who have or whose children have gone down this road already have been quite helpful-- thank you. Good luck to everyone out there about to embark on this journey :)</p>
<p>Many thanks too all of you, especially TrumpetDad, Momofbassist, and musictwin for your suggestions. Duquesne is on the radar already and so is Baldwin Wallace, though I can’t figure out if they offer an electric bass major in their jazz program, I’ve emailed to clarify.</p>
<p>I appreciate the other suggestions and am looking into them now. I look forward to sharing with you all.</p>
<p>In that spirit, we spent the day at CCM (Cincinnati) yesterday. My S really liked it a lot, felt very at home in the classes he visited, and comfortable with the level of bass talent he saw (felt he’d fit in well). He will definitely apply/audition. </p>
<p>Meeting with the head of the jazz dept was a bit of a downer, Prof. Belke, the only low spot of the day, but not enough to turn him off. S walked into his office feeling really good about the school and the head of Jazz clearly felt he hasn’t studied outside of school enough, didn’t seem to like what I’d call classical jazz enough and generally stuck a pin in the balloon of his enthusiasm. To be fair it felt more like an interview and S wasn’t ready for that so answered his questions without much thought. </p>
<p>My S is a gifted MOSTLY self taught bassist who can play anything he hears once and improv something awesome the next time with it, but he’s had little training outside of school band (7 years tuba) and school jazz band (4 years). He gigs professionally with a rock band, a “praise” band and the jazz band, but he clearly needs to spend some time with a teacher before auditions. Luckily we have a good one here who is a family friend.</p>
<p>He still likes Capital a bit better, it might be that it has a more laid back feel, not sure. But those two schools are on the “for sure” applying list for now.</p>
<p>We stopped by Wittenberg on the way home, a liberal arts college with a music dept, and he was NOT impressed. He’s quite sure he wants a BM now, unless it’s a BS in tech with a music minor or vice versa.</p>
<p>I’m just glad he finally has a focus :)</p>
<p>CCPA - The Music School at Roosevelt in Chicago pops up in my research too:</p>
<p>[Degree</a> Information](<a href=“http://www.roosevelt.edu/Catalog/Undergraduate/Degree.aspx?ID=128]Degree”>http://www.roosevelt.edu/Catalog/Undergraduate/Degree.aspx?ID=128)</p>
<p>Anyone have personal experience?</p>
<p>Scott Belck was the jazz trumpet guy at Capital prior to taking his current position at Cincinnati. I think this might be his 2nd year at Cincinnati. His background as a jazz trumpeter seems pretty impressive, so we had Capital on a tentative list a while ago, but then dropped it once he left.</p>
<p>Wooster offers a BM, but no Jazz Studies major. My daughter almost went there [not a musician].</p>
<p>we had our tour of Boyer at Temple and loved it. D is open to considering Oberlin and Peabody. She is set on being in a city though so Oberlin may not interest her. As stated she wants to be a piano performance major. What would be the reasons to choose say Peabody over Boyer, is it worth the expense? Any other suggestions as to schools for piano performance in mid west or eastern cities? Other then Juilliard</p>
<p>asaimom, I can’t speak about the differences between the piano studios, but I do have some experience with Peabody and Temple. My violin daughter had some lessons with a teacher there and really liked her. On our visit, the school felt small and friendly. Although the building itself is a bit confusing to navigate, I’m sure that would not be a problem after a week or so. The neighborhood is urban but charming with some nice boutiques and restaurants, and it’s not far from the Amtrak station. We heard very positive reports about the chamber music program, less so about the orchestra, but your daughter will not be concerned with orchestra. We had an overall positive impression of the school, although it is quite small and, like most small conservatories, academics are limited unless you take classes at Hopkins, which can be logistically difficult to arrange.</p>
<p>Temple has a better reputation outside of Philadelphia, where we live. Philadelphians tend to look down on Temple, probably undeservedly, because it is a large state university, and overall less selective than some of our other local schools. Like Peabody, the location is urban (it’s about a mile from Center City Philadelphia, and situated in a challenged neighborhood, but the campus itself is safe. (This is also true of Penn and Drexel, two other Philadelphia Universities.) Another daughter of mine transferred this semester from a private art school in Ohio to Tyler School of Art, which is in the building attached to Presser Hall, which houses most of Boyer’s classrooms. </p>
<p>Seeing Temple up close for the first time has made me aware of the richness it has to offer. I can’t speak to the facilities at Boyer (although my violin daughter has recorded at Rock Hall, one of the best local places for to make a classical audition tape), but the art school is a world-class facility with world-class faculty. A small school cannot offer the range of opportunities available to Temple students. Dealing with the Temple university administration is more difficult and frustrating than with a small school where there are only 100-200 per class and every office is equipped to deal with students and parents personally and quickly. There’s a lot of red tape in the overall administration, and their website, TU Portal, is a pain to navigate. But the schools within the university are small, and there one receives personalized attention. </p>
<p>Before my daughter transferred to Temple, I was nervous about her being on campus late at night (art students regularly work in their studios until 3 AM; musicians probably keep more regular hours.) I called security and was assured that any time she needed an escort they would be on call. As it turns out, the campus is lit bright as day at 3 AM, and there are plenty of security guards and students around. I am less concerned about her safety than when she was at her previous college, in Cleveland. It’s a city-that-never-sleeps situation, like New York, where my violin daughter ended, up, where I also do not worry excessively about safety. </p>
<p>I have lived in Philadelphia for a large part of my life without much thought or connection to Temple (my kids all went to its music prep division when they were younger, but that is on a different campus.) Recently, a good friend began attending the law school and a former student began the MFA writing program. Their very positive experiences of being in an excellent small program inside the university corroborate my new sense of the value of Temple as a not-so-hidden gem inside the city. The lower tuition rates (even for out-of-state students) make it more attractive. For us, Peabody would have been the most expensive school choice, as my daughter was offered a much smaller scholarship packet than for other places; we appealed, with support of the teacher and department, but the appeal was denied.) I do know of other students who have been offered excellent scholarships at Peabody. It’s hard to know what your financial options will be until you received the financial aid offers in April.</p>
<p>[edit]: As for other Eastern urban schools: MSM, Mannes?</p>
<p>Thanks, glassharmonica, for your comments about Temple. My son is interested in Temple and will be auditioning there this year, so reading about your experience and perception of the school is helpful.</p>
<p>Ohiobassmom,</p>
<p>Our s is in his senior yr at Webster U in St. Louis. He is a jazz guitar performance major and plays regularly with all the bass students (both jazz and classical). It is a great music school (yes, theater too). You should check it out. I have not posted here in almost four years and your post caught my eye.</p>
<p>Hey!
I’m new here, and I’m just starting to look at music degrees & music departments/institutions around the globe. I’m a Norwegian girl who attends UWC in New Mexico ([Browser</a> Not Supported](<a href=“http://www.uwc-usa.org%5DBrowser”>http://www.uwc-usa.org)), where I’m a junior. Voice is my instrument, and I hope to keep on doing what I love in life after UWC - music!</p>
<p>Thank you guitardad!</p>
<p>Hi,<br>
Proud Mom of a Jr. Trumpet (Jazz and Concert, prefers Jazz) and Sophomore Flute.
Both are thinking Business Major and Music Minor. My daughter considered Flute Performance but has had a change in heart…
Check out good B Schools + Music Schools!</p>
<p>Hi, Mom of a violist. D is a senior, just finishing applications for BM performance degree. She is having a sample lesson with a teacher from Temple this week…</p>
<p>Welcome, from one viola mom to another! Good luck to your D during audition season. My second D is a violist (nonmajor) at Bard and D3 is a viola performance major at Hartt.</p>
<p>D is applying BM performance, viola to eight schools…one conservatory, 7 liberal arts with music schools. We have no idea what will happen. Rating her chances is near impossible given the lack of data and the importance of the audition. ( I am assuming it is around 75 percent of the process, based on what I have read elsewhere.) The Freakanomics post on chances for BFA was interesting, and using that math, 8 schools seems pretty safe. She has done all the usual things, youth orchestra (top chairs), summer camps, all-state orchestras, good grades and SATs (though not great, probably enough to meet unstated “minimums”). The concept of a “safety school” doesn’t really seem to apply to this process. (given the lack of hard information, anecdotically she hears “oh you’ll get in there” or “you’ll get into at least one”, but we remind her how little these opinions are worth.) The amount of practicing going on in our house this year is mind-blowing, it is like it has increased 1000 percent. Whenever her energy starts to flag, her Dad starts singing “you deserve a break today!”…implying that without effort, she will not get in anywhere, and she will be at MacDonald’s U. she laughs.</p>
<p>I found this site quite by accident a few weeks ago. My D is a high school sophomore and was in the process of applying to Walnut Hill School for the Arts for mid-year. I was hoping to find some feedback from people about the school and I’ve been lurking ever since! There’s just so much wonderful information and I’m really grateful to everyone who is willing to share their experiences here.</p>
<p>Well, D did get accepted and will be starting as a Vocal/Opera major in January and she can’t wait. She shadowed yesterday and everyone was so welcoming. She actually dreaded getting up to go to her traditional high school today January can’t come fast enough for her.</p>
<p>All of these posts will be so helpful when she begins her college selection process in a year!</p>
<p>I have been on this board for a couple of years now - watching and learning. </p>
<p>S has applied to 9 schools, 8 are conservatory/uni conservatory and one BA Music school. 2 are EA, 1 is rolling and the rest are regular. Completed 1 audition with great feedback so far. Next audition is this coming weekend. A third is already scheduled for Feb. None of these required a prescreen. Waiting on those like everyone else! S is jazz piano, playing 11 years (9 year w/jazz teacher). Here we go!</p>
<p>Thank you to everyone who has answered all my questions over the past couple years!</p>