<p>hey Slavic</p>
<p>Can you tell me more about your UB visit...</p>
<p>SBU Mathgrad, to say "tripling is not out of the question" is disenguous at best. It happens to a large % of class. Add to that SBU not stepping up and having more "healthy/quiet" dorms it is outrageous.</p>
<p>It costs nothing, except admin time, to designate the requested numbers of halls/dorms as heathy. But the admin people are the most arrogant on the face of the earth, starting with the people who answer the phone in admisssion. They think they are hot stuff. Dont they know it is the tuition, subsidized by taxpayers, that puts them on the top of the list?</p>
<p>Well to be honest with you I was appalled, but after visiting Stony Brook I guess Buffalo isnt all that bad. Niether have much going on, but Buffalo is relatively close to niagra falls, which is pretty cool. Um I didnt like the dorms at all, the gym was just ok, the lecture halls were nothing special. The classrooms werent great looking (Id have to say the classrooms in Queens College (a cuny) are nicer). But in the end, Seeing both campuses, Id have to say buffalo was the nicer one. It didnt seem so dead, and Buffalo seemed much more green than stony brook. Stony Brook looks like a gray graveyard.
Of the two schools though, my decision is Stony Brook. It means ill have to live at home the first year (which im really against), but It seems like its the better option for me</p>
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SBU Mathgrad, to say "tripling is not out of the question" is disenguous at best. It happens to a large % of class. Add to that SBU not stepping up and having more "healthy/quiet" dorms it is outrageous.
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SBU is stepping up, they are building a brand new quad that will be complete by January 2010.</p>
<p>kayf, if you have no idea what you're talking about you really shouldn't correct people.</p>
<p>I have no idea where you got the idea that there aren't enough "healthy/quiet" dorms to meet the demand, but you're entirely wrong. There are more spots in designated quiet and substance free dorm spaces than there are requests for them, in fact. Every quad has 24-hour quiet and quiet lifestyle wings. The campus would actually probably be better off if there were fewer of them since that would reduce the number of people who end up there by accident, though it wouldn't do anything about the people whose parents made them request it. In any event, there are certainly some quiet dorm areas for people who need that.</p>
<p>The vast majority of administrators I've encountered were helpful and polite. One person answering the phones in admissions (who probably has to listen to unreasonable complaints and misplaced frustration all day) is hardly evidence for the entire administration being arrogant. Please stop talking until you have something accurate to say.</p>
<p>Psuedo </p>
<p>“The fact that tripling has become routine is ridiculous” - from Pseud at 1/3/2009 </p>
<p>And if they are adding dorms -- they can be tripled also. </p>
<p>“Sadly quiet dorms are the luck of the draw depending on building, room, and of course your room/suitemates” – Sulijian at 3/7/09 – under tripling</p>
<p>As to the vast majority of admin you've encountered are helpful and polite -- are you student, parent? I am glad you're happy, but eveyone has different experiences.</p>
<p>kayf how is it disingenuous? Read the context I said it in, I said I never got tripled, but I heard a lot of the freshman are getting tripled. Disingenuous would be to say that tripling is not a big deal and doesn't happen. I said what I knew from my experiences, I never got tripled but it seems like a good number of freshman are.</p>
<p>Sorry, SBU I didnt read your earlier post, just the one which said "not out of the question" which implies less than likely, at least to me.</p>
<p>kayf, not sure why you're quoting me about tripling. I still think the fact that tripling has become routine is ridiculous. I do think we'd be better off now if the administration had had more foresight when they decided to increase the student population. But at this point, there's nothing they should do about it besides what's already being done. New dorms are already being built. The only options in the mean time would be shrinking the freshman class (surely a great idea with a drastic increase in applications), no longer guaranteeing housing to freshmen (because it would clearly be better to leave some people out in the cold than triple), or no longer guaranteeing housing to returning students (because ignoring the financial aid and transportation problems that would result totally makes sense). Campus residences is doing what it can within the constraints of reality. It's not ideal, but it's not the end of the world either. Once the new dorms are finished, I highly doubt tripling will be an issue if the student body stays its current size--they're adding a LOT of beds.</p>
<p>Justifying a statement that Stony Brook's administration is "the most arrogant on the face of the earth" with someone else's inaccurate/incomplete line about quiet dorms and "eveyone has different experiences" is ridiculous. Do you have any connection or interaction with SBU at all? What's your stake in this besides the "concerned taxpayer" crap you've been spreading around? A quick glance at the campus res website tells you there are designated quiet and sub-free dorms all over campus. They'll never be perfect, since people end up there because of parental pressure, have varying ideas of what "quiet lifestyle" is, or misjudge how much they actually want to live that way, but the fact remains that any supply related problems are because there are too many beds designated, not too few. Check your facts once in a while. I'm a current student, about to graduate, and I've probably spent more time interacting with administrators than average. Most of them care a lot about helping students. The administration can be frustrating, like any large bureaucracy, but hardly the massively rude and arrogant entity you're making it out to be.</p>
<p>I'm a prospective student looking at Stony Brook. Reading the original post and the responses has gotten me very indecisive about the school. For the most part, I feel like I shouldn't take a chance.
I can't visit since I live so far away and can't afford a flight up there.
They also didn't offer much financial aid.</p>
<p>samonster -- I understand your concern, but do take as many opportunities as you can to learn from actual students, not just those on a message board. Join the Facebook 2013 group, attend one of the chats, check the student blogs... there are a lot of positive ways to learn about all the good things about Stony Brook.</p>
<p>Don't let the small sample size of a couple of anonymous posters on a message board determine the rest of your life. :)</p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p>what chris said is really true... smonster</p>
<p>I know. I am continuing to look at Stony Brook as a potential choice for me.
I did apply for a reason and I'm thoroughly reviewing ALL my choices.
Thanks for the advice.</p>
<p>The only thing that concerns me is the tripling of the dorms. I dont understand also why so many colleges are having their accepted day on April 19th. I was accepted at Fordham and they have their day on April 19th so I can't make the Stonybrook accepted day. My ultimate decision will be between fordham and Stony Brook and Fordham is giving me a lot of money.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there are pics posted anywhere of what a triple looks like?</p>
<p>Doonvarn</p>
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<li><p>Even if you can't make student admit day, I would be surprised if you coudn't call admissions and make an appointment to get a tour, and see dorms and anything you wanted. You will be spending 4 years at college, you should defiinitely check it out. </p></li>
<li><p>As to tripling -- from first comment of guy who was there - "What this means is that three people live in a room designed for two. The room itself was small enough, but the whole sharing the desk, sharing internet, sharing closets and everything got to me. I had no space of my own. I had to share a desk. " Maybe this has changed, but sharing internet is absurd -- that is fixable. I think not having my own desk would bother me, but my D appears to do all her homework with her laptop in bed. Sharing closet would not be good for her though.</p></li>
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<p>kayf's right. (!!) Tripling really isn't as bad as you might expect -- and it's hard, even in the short time you get to see it on the tour, to make a really informed decision it -- but you have to see it for yourself. We offer regular tours Monday through Saturday; try to make it some other day. You can meet with a specific academic department or whatever else you'd like to do while you're on campus, also. (Except on Saturdays, obviously.)</p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p>Tripling is a concern for sure. But it also seems like a lot of schools are tripling. Being in less than ideal circumstances can be both good or bad. It depends on the person. I think most people will just go into the situation with a negative outlook, but make the best out of whatever situation you are in. Just because you're tripled doesn't mean life is going to suck. </p>
<p>I'm not saying tripling is good, but college is supposed to prepare you for real life. You know what, in real life, you don't get what you want. You have to deal with it. Most people complain and end up nowhere, a rare few will just be creative and make the best out of whatever situation they are given.</p>
<p>It depends on how big a factor tripling is for you. If it's a big factor, then don't go. If it isn't, then maybe you'll learn something and grow as an adult. </p>
<p>If I were a prospective freshman again, I would be calling the Campus Housing office and asking them how many entering students get tripled? What percentage get tripled? What determines getting tripled? How long on average does tripling last? Is it my first semester, my first year, 2 years? I think you get the point.</p>
<p>This is not to say tripling is inconvenient. What I am saying is that I'm sure a lot of schools are tripling because a lot of schools need the money from student's tuition (the easiest way for a school to generate more money is to accept more students, and squeezing an extra student into a room limits their costs). So like others have pointed out about "large and impersonal classes," tripling is just another thing associated to schools with higher than average enrollments, especially at a public university.</p>
<p>I suspect tripling is much more common at public universities. I have trouble believing a school like Fordham is going to put kids in triples -- they wouldnt be able to collect what they do from full pay kids under conditions like that.</p>
<p>On the housing thread someone who goes there said this year de-tripling lasted into spring. </p>
<p>Other than the army, I can not imagine any other place you would share a room with a stranger. So to say this prepares you for life is ridiculous. IRL you pick your roommates, you have choices. </p>
<p>But look around and visit.</p>
<p>i know of many kids at many different private colleges who ended up being tripled -- tripling is not unique to public colleges.</p>
<p>the following is from fordham's website:
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Converted Triples: Due to high demand for University housing, some double rooms in Alumni Court North, Alumni Court South, Queen’s Court and Tierney Hall at Rose Hill will be converted to triple rooms at a reduced cost.
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Fordham</a> University - The Office Of Residential Life At Rose Hill - New Student Information</p>
<p>Fordham is also in NYC, where any space is at a premium,</p>