<p>and calmom–my parents and yes i probably will not qualify for need-based seeing as my family makes 100K a year.</p>
<p>@airfreshener – sorry, I overreact sometimes. :-)</p>
<p>“seeing as my family makes 100K a year.”</p>
<p>You may qualify for financial aid at some Ivies and elite LACs. Check it out.</p>
<p>[Stony</a> Brook University - The Honors College](<a href=“http://www.stonybrook.edu/uaa/honorscollege/scholars.shtml]Stony”>http://www.stonybrook.edu/uaa/honorscollege/scholars.shtml)
^Read through this info regarding SUNY Stony Brook</p>
<p>TCNJ is an excellent school to go to as a pre-med, and is a real bargain instate. I would urge you to at least apply there, to keep it open as an option. If you want to major in Biology, there is an earlier application deadline. </p>
<p>UMKC - University of Missouri Kansas City has a less competitive BS/MD program.
[UMKC</a> School of Medicine](<a href=“http://www.med.umkc.edu/med_admissions/default.html]UMKC”>http://www.med.umkc.edu/med_admissions/default.html)
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<p>I agree with RobD - With your grades and that 32, I think you might be good for free tuition at U of Alabama. If you have savings or can make enough money during the summer to cover room and board, you can go there. </p>
<p>Also check the “What I have learned about full ride scholarships” and the “Update on What I have learned about full ride scholarships” threads.</p>
<p>If you want a smaller school, I always recommend University of Minnesota Morris, the public liberal arts college of MN. They are generous to excellent students like you and they will pay for you to come for a visit after you are accepted.</p>
<p>And let me just throw out there that Ohio University in Athens, OH, also offers full tuition for an ACT score of 32. It’s strong academically in a number of areas, and it’s a fun place to be an undergrad.</p>
<p>Re post #61.</p>
<p>If you expect your parents to pay for med school, then it is their call as to how to do that.</p>
<p>It seems that they are saying that they will pay the full cost of a combined degree program, such as Brown PMLE – if you can get accepted – but if not, they want you to attend an in-state public for undergrad. </p>
<p>It is understandable that they do not want to waste their assets on a full-cost private 4-year undergraduate education, if they are also expected to conserve resources for medical school. </p>
<p>I would suggest that you look for undergraduate colleges where you might be able to get substantial merit-based financial aid, as Curmudgeon’s daughter did by attending Rhodes on a full-ride scholarship, before proceeding on to med school at Yale. Your parents seem to be concerned mostly with cost, which is very appropriate – I’m sure they would be happy to see you attend any private undergrad college if costs could be contained to the level of your in-state public options or below. </p>
<p>So if you want your parents to pay, you need to abide by their totally reasonable offer in term of how they are willing to subsidize you. </p>
<p>Have you talked to them about the possibility of their paying for undergraduate school and your paying your own way through med school (with loans)?</p>
<p>^yes we have discussed and that we have, in fact, agreed to that assuming i do not get into any BS/MD programs.</p>
<p>You might check out these programs at Knox:
[Requirements</a> for the Program | Knox College](<a href=“http://www.knox.edu/Academics/Courses-of-Study/Medicine/Requirements-for-the-Program.html]Requirements”>http://www.knox.edu/Academics/Courses-of-Study/Medicine/Requirements-for-the-Program.html)
[Early</a> Admission Program to Medical School | Knox College](<a href=“http://www.knox.edu/Academics/Courses-of-Study/Medicine/Early-Admission.html]Early”>http://www.knox.edu/Academics/Courses-of-Study/Medicine/Early-Admission.html)</p>
<p>LOL why is everybody on here assuming i will have a 32 by the time i will be applying?
I will promise you that i will get a 35.</p>
<p>“I wish people would stop suggesting ROTC for students with a money problem. The students that succeed at ROTC are the ones the want to be an officer above anything else. The ones that try it to pay for school do not succeed.”</p>
<p>Iron Maiden: point taken.</p>
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<p>Actually get a 35 and then we will assume otherwise.</p>
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<p>What use would that be? I thought you guys shot down my dreams of going to an ivy…</p>
<p>My understanding is that most of the BS/MD programs require a certain college GPA to remain eligible for med school, too – so it’s not like once you get in, you’re on easy street.</p>
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<p>I know that. But for some programs, you have to keep a flat B average. For others, you have to keep a 3.5 average. So, if you go to an undergrad school, you have to work harder to have a HIGH GPA. But for direct med, you are taking, not the easy street, but an easier street.</p>
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It is way too much to ask someone to pay $200,000 for your for years of having fun.</p>
<p>[NEOUCOM</a> | Northeastern Ohio Universities Colleges of Medicine and Pharmacy](<a href=“http://www.neoucom.edu/audience/applicants/succeed/admi/admiinfocurrentHS]NEOUCOM”>http://www.neoucom.edu/audience/applicants/succeed/admi/admiinfocurrentHS)
I think you have a chance at the NEOUCOM BS MD program. Your stats appear to be in range - <a href=“http://www.neoucom.edu/audience/applicants/succeed/admi/admiinfocurrentHS/acadprofile[/url]”>http://www.neoucom.edu/audience/applicants/succeed/admi/admiinfocurrentHS/acadprofile</a> - although they don’t have many spaces for out of staters.</p>
<p>Would your parents go for that?</p>
<p>Kent State has a really pretty campus and many excellent academic programs. And it is a lot of fun…</p>
<p>We are assuming that you will have a 32 because that is what you have now. You can’t assume that you will do better; you could wake up the morning of the test with a fever, or a stomach virus. You might have been up the night before because you had some caffeine late in the day. Etc. I’m not saying that you can’t or that you won’t. You just have to work with the data you have now.</p>
<p>Yes, Midwestmom they would! thank you</p>
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<p>About 85% of the class of 2013 at Brown has less than an 800 for each section of the SAT. So the vast majority of Brown students do not have a 2400. For example, a quarter of the class have between 700-740 for SAT math.</p>
<p>[Brown</a> Admission: Facts & Figures](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>