<p>improvmylife, Brown is a fine institute. I believe our fellow CCer, ModestMelody can provide you with a brighter picture in Brown.</p>
<p>Kwu, your list illustrates an excellent idea of apple to apple and orange to orange comparisons among undergraduate LACs. Only a few elite public universities e.g. UVA, W&M, Michigan, UNC, Berkeley, UCLA, Florida, etc. would be able to attract significant number of applicants. Despite the fact that OOS undergraduate usually require to pay a significant higher tuition than their IS counter parts, which is an obvious disadvantage from the moneywise sand point, however, these public universities tend to turndown more OOS than their IS applicants (see UVA’s admissions stats as an example). Isn’t it a way to define selectivity? </p>
<p>UVA’s admissions stats CLASS OF 2014:
Total applications received: 22,520
Virginia applications: 7,864 (35 percent)
Out-of-state applications: 14,656 (65 percent)
Total offers made by UVA: 6,907 (31 percent)
Virginia offers: 3,380 (43 percent of Virginia applications)
Out-of-state offers: 3,527 (24 percent of out-of-state applications)</p>
<p>Noimagination, you have an excellent list regarding engineering schools. Do you have their breakdowns between undergraduate and graduate education? I believe there should be some differences between these two.</p>
<p>aI62400, “LACs and research universities, while both private and non-ivy, should be ranked separately. I almost think it makes sense to create a category like “Research Ivies” or “Science Ivies” was thoughtful and challenging. </p>
<p>Sentaria,</p>
<p>Yes, in order to take into account the quality of all applicants, it would make sense to also examine data e.g., average GPA, SATs, Class Rank, etc. of the rejected (an unpleasant adjective) applicants. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I believe it makes no harm if fellow CCers take their liberty of making lists of top 8 in broader categories like the ones posted by kwu and noimagination on posts #61 and #71 as long as you can back them up. </p>
<p>Vinzzini, yes, all three service academies should warrant consideration and they belong to the category National Liberal Arts Colleges (LACs).</p>
<p>As an example, based on the cross-admitted students’ preferences, the new look of my list is shown as follows. </p>
<p>Ivy League Universities:</p>
<p>Rank Type Institute Score
1 4 Harvard University 93
2 4 Yale University 92
3 4 Princeton University 91
5 4 University of Pennsylvania 89
7 4 Brown University 87
10 4 Cornell University 83
11 4 Dartmouth College 83
12 4 Columbia University 82</p>
<p>Non-Ivy League National Universities:</p>
<p>Rank Type Institute Score
4 1 Stanford University 89
6 1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 88
9 1 Duke University 85
14 1 University of Notre Dame 79
16 1 Rice University 78
17 1 University of Chicago 77
19 1 Georgetown University 75
21 1 University of Southern California 72
22 1 Northwestern University 72
24 1 Caltech 69</p>
<p>Liberal Arts Colleges:</p>
<p>Rank Type Institute Score
8 2 Pomona College 86
20 2 Williams College 74
32 2 Muhlenberg College 60
33 2 Swarthmore College 60
36 2 Colgate University 55
38 2 Wesleyan University 55
40 2 United States Air Force Academy 54
43 2 Emerson College 50
48 2 College of the Holy Cross 45
49 2 Washington and Lee University 44</p>
<p>Public Universities :</p>
<p>Rank Type Institute Score
13 3 University of California, Berkeley 80
15 3 University of California, Los Angeles 79
18 3 University of Virginia 75
23 3 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 71
26 3 College of William and Mary in Virginia 68
28 3 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 64
30 3 University of Florida 64
34 3 Georgia Institute of Technology 60
42 3 University of Texas at Austin 52
45 3 University of Maryland, College Park 49</p>