Navy ROTC and the DODMERB

<p>I guess you guys won't mind a bit of NROTC talk...</p>

<p>I recived an Email saying that my NROTC application was completed and sent to the CNET (I think that's what it is) in Pensacola, FL on August 29. This is one day late to miss the first board which I was told was 28 August. I think that I read somewhere that selection boards meet bi-weekly (Then, according to that estimate the selection board met today). </p>

<p>1) Does anyone know anything about when the selection board REALLY meets? Did anyone else submitted an application in past years and when did they hear back?</p>

<p>2) I would apprectiate all info that anyone has reguarding the NROTC selection process. Does anyone here have a kid that went through it? I was wondering what happened after you were selected to receive the scolarship?</p>

<p>I would assume that the DODMERB process is similar if not the same for USNA selectees as it is for NROTC? I live in a rural SC town without a military base for miles (There's Ft. Jackson in Columbia, I think). Where is it conducted? </p>

<p>Thanks a lot for all your info!!!!</p>

<p>you should get a letter from DODMERB soon regarding scheduling your appointment. it also doesnt need to be done at a military base. DODMERB contracts with other companies, so there should be a medical facility close by that can administer the exam.</p>

<p>Does anyone go to Iowa State University or Boston University for the Marine Corps option NROTC? Any information on any of the schools would be greatly appreciated. ie: what indoc was like, how it is structured...
The Naval Academy is my first chose, but I want to be an officer in the Marine Corps more than anything, so I am looking for other options.
Thanks
respectfully,
usnahopeful</p>

<p>I don't mean to be taking the thread from anyone.</p>

<p>My son applied for and received an NROTC scholarship last year. All turned out beautifully in the end -- he is now MIDN 4/c at his chosen University and, so far, has survived his INDOC (the military acronym for a demanding orientation) with enthusiasm intact. But getting there was a long and fairly bumpy ride that required a whole lot of patience. </p>

<p>My son got his application in a bit later than you did, sometime in late September. The first thing that happened after that was an interview in October with a Navy recruiter who came to our home. We thought this was "THE" big interview but it wasn't -- it turned out to be a brief, preliminary kind of thing that was intended, I think, to make sure he met all the basic screening requirements. It took some scheduling and rescheduling to get that done because the recruiter's time was limited. </p>

<p>Then came the real interview, which took place at a Naval recruiting office and similarly required some scheduling and rescheduling. By the time that was done, we were into late November. Meanwhile my son had been scaring up the recommendation letters and transcripts and test reports and such that had to be provided. There is a website where you will be able to log in to keep up with the status of your application, so you will know what they have received and what they haven't. Of course, during this time, he was also getting his college application together since, as you know, that's a separate process. He applied ED and was lucky enough to get in in early December, so that turned out to be a lot easier than the NROTC application process! </p>

<p>We did not hear anything from DODMERB in this time. We had gotten the impression, as you apparently also have, that DODMERB would contact us during the application process. When it got to be December and we had not heard from DODMERB, I finally called the Naval officer whose name we had been given as the coordinator for NROTC applicants in our region. He explained that in different years, the DODMERB requirement can be handled differently. In some years the physical is a preliminary to the board's decision; in other years it comes afterward, and only those selected for scholarships go through the DODMERB process. Our son's year was of the second type -- no DODMERB until after selection.</p>

<p>We were told that he would be reviewed in the December boards and that we might hear something around New Years', but in fact he did not hear until late February. Great joy when the status finally showed up on the website, followed a few days later by a letter: he was selected! </p>

<p>But the process wasn't over. He returned the form saying he wanted the scholarship, waited a few more weeks, and got a card from DODMERB, followed by a letter from the contractor that sets up the appointments. Then there was another wait for the actual appointments, which were in early April. We do not live near one of the military sites where this is done, so he was seen in the offices of two different civilian doctors who have contracts with the military (eyes and general physical -- both must be done on the same day, eyes first.)</p>

<p>Then we waited some more to get the results. After a few weeks -- sometime in May -- we received a request from DODMERB for more information. We had to send all his lifetime medical records on four different medical issues they had found in his history -- old injuries and potential health questions. That meant another wait, since it takes doctors and hospitals a few weeks to get the records to you after a request. In June, we got the required records together and mailed them. </p>

<p>In July they turned him down. He was medically disqualified for flat feet. (He is, BTW, a varsity athlete who played several sports and had recently completed an undefeated season as a starter on a championship soccer team.) </p>

<p>BUT that wasn't the end. Every disqualified NROTC applicant gets an automatic appeal to BUMED for a waiver. The waiver process had already been started, as soon as they mailed the disqualification letter. We called the very helpful and kind people at DODMERB to ask if there was anything we could do to aid in getting a waiver and they said yes -- if we had any medical information that would support a waiver, by all means send it in. So he went to see his orthopedist, who examined his undeniably flat, but benign, feet, and wrote an excellent letter and report. We mailed that in . . . and in late July, he got his waiver, and he started filling out a whole NEW stack of paperwork for the NROTC battalion at his college. </p>

<p>So, as you can see, it may be quite a long time before you know whether or not you will be rolling out of your dorm bed at 0500 for PT at this time next year. Looking back, I think that's a good thing -- it's a good introduction to the military bureaucracy and an excellent test of just how committed you really are to the whole undertaking. Information about what to expect as you go along is much harder to come by than we thought it would be. It is not like applying to college where information is everywhere. Each of the ROTC service branches has slightly different processes and requirements, and it is hard to find anybody who has a good handle on the big picture. To some degree you just have to take it as it comes and try to be patient. You also have to be vigilant about the details of your own application -- make sure everything gets done, make sure everything is received, don't be afraid to ask questions. I wish you the best of luck with it!</p>

<p>Wow. Thanks so much for all that info on your son's application process! </p>

<p>I also find that disapointing how little info there is avaliable about the process... SO confusing...</p>

<p>I'm defintiely not looking forward to what may turn out to be a myriad of physicals and examinations, but I'll more than willing to do whatever it takes to get that scholarship! Yes, I too, am applying early decision (to Duke) and the application has a dealine of Oct 20. Too bad the Navy can't just be like "Here's the dealine, don't miss it, and you will hear our decision reguarding your scholarship on [specific date]" </p>

<p>Congratulations on your son's acceptance to First Choice U. ! Thanks again for your help!</p>

<p>If you applied to USNA and application has I believe 5 items in, then DODMERB will be scheduled pretty soon. Then the NROTC gets the info quickly as well. My son applied for NROTC in April/junior year and got his acceptance letter I think in OCT/NOV. Did summer seminar at USNA and had completed app in August. He heard in Jan, I believe and is now at Annapolis. His NROTC schools were University of San Diego, Texas A&M and OSU.</p>

<p>My S, in NROTC started his app. process in June after his Jr. year of h.s. That's when he had his interview at the recruiting office. He submitted his completed application around the end of Aug./early Sept. He got his scholarship letter in October. The letter told him exactly who to call and where to go (in nearby city) for the eye exam (just a regular optometrist's office) and physical exam( one of those contract offices). He got those appointments done in early November. The physical was not as extensive as he thought it would be. More like a regular check-up but also had a hearing test. Note...S wears glasses and has flat feet too but neither was mentioned in the DODMERB report as a problem. He received his letter in the mail from DODMERB saying he was medically qualified (and therefore had the scholarship) on Nov. 24. So it all actually went pretty smoothly (and quickly compared to CatherineFM's S). S's best friend (and now roommate) didn't start his NROTC app. until late Sept. and he got his scholarship letter in January I believe.<br>
Bluedevil1027...what are your other school choices on your NROTC app.?<br>
Your own in-state Univ. (USC) has a well respected NROTC program. Also NCSU (where my midshipman attends) has the largest NROTC in NC and beasted Duke in competiton last year (sorry just had to throw that in,LOL).
So if Duke doesn't work out for you there are other great choices nearby. Good luck in the application process to both college and NROTC...S says one thing the military has taught him is "hurry up and wait!"</p>

<p>Glad to hear your son's process went smoothly. I submitted my app late August, so I guess I can expect to recieve my letter in October as well (?). </p>

<p>USC is definitely not for me. I'm not one of those guys who is like "I'll go anywhere to college, as long as I have NROTC". I did not apply for USNA (although I almost regret that...). </p>

<p>My other two colleges are: Rice University in Houston, TX and Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh, PA. I've heard the "hurry up and wait" line before... and yes I am already putting it to practice! </p>

<p>Thanks for the insight, PackMom and OregonMom!</p>

<p>bluedevil1027 and usnahopeful:
i'm in NROTC now as a Marine-Option mid, and i went through the selection processes for both USNA and ROTC last year, so feel free to PM me with any questions. usnahopeful, i might be able to help you out with learning about the Boston University unit, because they are in our Consortium. (i'm in the harvard/MIT/tufts unit, and the BU/BC/Northeastern one is right across the river; the two units make up the Boston Consortium.)</p>

<p>bluedevil1027, I'm sure you must know that NCSU and UNC-CH are part of the NROTC NC Consortium that includes Duke. So you will have to come in contact (if you go to Duke) with "those guys" a couple of times a year. You might want to keep your thoughts "I'm not one of those guys who "go anywhere to college as long as I have NROTC" to yourself. Your commanding officers in NROTC may not have all attended elite colleges either. Be careful what you say. You never know who you might offend.</p>

<p>Great! Can't wait to kick Wolfpack and Tarheel ass at the competitons! They do have competitions, right?</p>

<p>BD1027 - if/when you get here, you will quickly discover, in terms of the inter-school NROTC competitions, UNC and Duke <em>together</em> don't stand much of a chance against the NCSU battalion. Among other advantages, they have a large population of MECEPs (Marine Enlisted Commissioning Education Program) who are enlisted Marines that have picked up a program whereby they get their college degree and their commission as 2Lts. Which mean the NCSU battalion gets the advantage of having a lot of classmates who have "been there, done that, got the chevrons" and can be a...motivating group of people for the competitions :) And, they're Marines, rather than, say, officers-in-training...</p>