Newhouse Rankings?

<p>Hey going to Cuse next year for newhouse. Yess. Anyone have any sites or anything that show how Newhouse ranks as far as Communication schools? Everyone is always asking me how good the school is and I'm always saying it is one of the better ones in the country. However this is just what I've heard from informal sources. Anyone have a website or something? Much appreciated.</p>

<p>Freeze: We attended the accepted student session at Lubin House in NY last week....there are no official rankings, but Dean Rubin stated that it is often evaluated based on job placement after graduation.</p>

<p>The stats presented were 92% job placement rate within 6 months after graduation in the fields that students majored in. The other 8% either went to graduate school or are taking a gap year....</p>

<p>Hope that helps...</p>

<p>BTW, the other info he presented was that their direct competitors are USC-Annenberg and Northwestern.....Umissouri@ Columbia J school was mentioned as well, but different structure....</p>

<p>My d is facing the same questions from her peers as you are....It seems adults are better acquainted with the prestige and benefits of Newhouse than kids.....She actually had a couple of kids in her APCalc class say to her "ew, you're thinking of going to Syracuse????" She didn't even respond....</p>

<p>haha yeah. Syracuse holistically is a good school, but nothing to brag about prestige wise. However, Newhouse IS really difficult to get into. But I have no substantial proof of that (even though I know it is true). So yeah it's a little irritating that people are so ignorant to a school of Newhouse's caliber. But as long as we ourselves know it, I guess that is all that matters.</p>

<p>Sorry, I didn't add that the first words out of Dean RUbin's mouth were:</p>

<p>4000 applicants
345 spots
They usually have about a 35-40% yield on admitted students...(I haven't done the math to figure out acceptance rate, but it's around 20% on average...)..</p>

<p>All admitted were top5- 10% of the class, if rank was reported.......</p>

<p>I thought I had posted this elsewhere, but there you go........</p>

<p>Ah thanks rodney.</p>

<p>A little bit off topic here. But your daughter is in AP Calc; I assume she's taken other AP classes for credit as well. Do you happen to have a link as to where I can find how the AP Credits transfer over? Does SU Accept just 4's and 5's or 3's as well? Thanks!</p>

<p><a href="http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/pad/search%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/pad/search&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This is for graduate school but I'd assume you'll know where undergrad falls based on this. Just in case you didn't know, public affairs is where Newhouse falls.</p>

<p>Houseoflondon: thank you very much......What do you mean by "public affairs is where Newhouse falls"? Do you mean "fails" or "falls down" or is placed in the rankings??</p>

<p>Northwestern, USC & Syracuse are the Harvard, Yale & Princeton of communications schools. For journalism, it is Northwestern, Missouri & Columbia. Two factors that probably affect communications schools are location & endowment/funding. Northwestern University's location and incredible wealth are significant assets in attracting students and faculty. USC recently received $300 million from George Lucas for its film school and USC has a premier location for communications majors.</p>

<p>Thank you house!</p>

<p>Well then. That'll be interesting when I tell my friends Syracuse Communications>Harvard Communications :P</p>

<p>You welcome.</p>

<p>rodney, I meant that New House is under the public affairs umbrella. Usually they call it communications so I didn't know if the name would be new to you all.</p>

<p>freeze: Not sure if this is up-to-date, but here is what I found...</p>

<p>University</a> College of Syracuse University | Transfer Credits | College Board Advanced Placement and College Level Examination Program</p>

<p>wish I would've gotten the HEOP program AID.</p>

<p>Gotta love the misinformation here.</p>

<p>I believe that USC got $175,000,000 ( although it could have been more)for its School of Cinematic Arts and NOT communication. Thus, this benefits film and animation, writing, interactive media and film production at USC.</p>

<p>See USC</a> Catalogue: The Schools: USC School of Cinematic Arts: USC School of Cinema-Television</p>

<p>appreciate it again rodney.</p>

<p>So I'm majoring in Communications. Do I still get credit for AP Bio/AP US? Or will my counselor help me out with that? Thanks everyone</p>

<p>House of London, the Newhouse School does not fall under the public affairs umbrella. It is a school (i.e. Faculty) within Syracuse University. The Maxwell School falls under the umbrella of Public Affairs, and it is the top-ranked graduate school of public affairs in the U.S.</p>

<p>Oh! Thanks for clearing that up. I thought communications would fall under public affairs.</p>

<p>Yes, taxguy, it was a $175 million gift by George Lucas to the film school (as I specified earlier). Although USC's film school is not in the school of communications, many--if not most--universities with a film major place it under communications (e.g.,Northwestern University) or they are closely related.(Film major at NYU is under the Tisch School for the Arts.) Some break it out into "visual & performing arts".</p>

<p>Newhouse does have an incredibly active alumni network for jobs after graduation. Let me caution people, though. Our D will be graduating from Newhouse this May. In December, parents received a letter from the Dean, informing parents of Newhouse grad trends. He discouraged students and parents from getting frustrated with the job search. They report that many of their friends in other non-Newhouse programs often have jobs lined up months prior to graduation - it's more the nature of those jobs. They said the kinds of jobs Newhouse grads will be looking for don't have the lengthy lead times that other industries have. There is usually a 2-3 week lead time for jobs in communications, meaning, most companies hiring for these kinds of positions won't know of their job openings until 2-3 weeks prior to interviewing people.</p>

<p>Also, the majority of alumni contacts are either on the East Coast or in the L.A. area. For those who attend Syracuse from other parts of the country, and who want to return to their hometown (or even state), they won't have the depth of alumni networking that those who stay on the East Coast will.</p>

<p>teriwtt: As a parent of a student who is choosing between Newhouse and a completely different college experience (liberal arts), could you reflect on the pros and cons of your D's experience at Newhouse, in particular and Syracuse, in general..??? Thank you; greatly appreciated.....(the above post was a saver, so I imagine you have great insight)</p>

<p>no problem - we are from the Chicago area, which is why I posted about the alumni networking.</p>

<p>In our search, which began five years ago, my daughter narrowed down her list to Syracuse, Penn State, UNC, Boston University, and Ithaca. She applied to UIUC as a safety. Wouldn't consider Northwestern since it was too close to home, and she had no interest in being in Missouri. She got into every place but UNC (tough for out of state), got some decent scholarships from Boston and Syracuse. She was also invited to join the honors program; she started out there, but decided she didn't want to stay in it. Sophomore year she also decided to double major with Public Policy, but then realized too late that one of the requirements she needed she couldn't fit in, and it would be very tough to complete the double major if she wanted to spend a semester abroad in London. So she chose the public policy minor. </p>

<p>Like I said, her experience at Newhouse has prepared her well for a job in communications, but she wants to come back our way after graduation, and there just haven't been any companies from the Midwest visiting their career center. She had second semester freshman standing when she started Syracuse due to some AP classes. We were thrilled when they gave her six math credits for a 5 on AP CalcAB. She could have graduated in December had she really pushed it harder, but again, she took a lighter load while in London in order to free up her schedule for some travel. She only needed nine credit hours to graduate this term, but to keep her scholarship, she has to take a full load of 12. So she filled in her schedule with Wine and Beer Appreciation, and kickboxing. Oh, she also joined a sorority second semester freshman year. That was one of the things I kind of liked about Syracuse - that they don't allow girls to rush until then... gives them a chance to find their way and get settled before deciding if the greek life is for them.</p>

<p>Regarding the liberal arts question. I guess I don't understand the question. She is required to take many classes outside of Newhouse, so she is definitely getting a liberal arts experience. If you're referring more to a comparison between Newhouse and a smaller LAC, then yes, they're different experiences, but that's mostly about the environment and differences in the campus. Our youngest is at a small LAC, and it is a different experience than Syracuse, but it depends on the kid. Older daughter could never see herself at younger daughter's school because of the size; besides, older daughter wanted a place with a larger athletic life. </p>

<p>She describes her Newhouse experience very distinctly. Most of her PR classes are very hands on - in classes they are actually doing campaign work for clients in Syracuse (or in London if they go there and take advantage of the PR classes there). </p>

<p>I would say major congratulations for an acceptance to Newhouse; yes, most people don't understand the competitiveness to get in as a freshman. It is an honor, whether people understand the significance of it or not. Because we live so far away, when people ask why our daughter chose Syracuse, we usually say for Newhouse, because it's consistently respected as one of the top three J schools in the country. Then they get it.</p>