Looked on ED, packets will come in 5d so I’ll wait til Wednesday ?
D was waitlisted . Thank you next ! Congrats to those that got in.
Did anyone else a letter from their regional AOs?
@wuxman43 yes I did
Accepted
SAT 1420
Math 750
Reading/writing 670
Essay 8 6 8
AP N/A
Honors N/A
IB predicted 45, took french a year early
Extracurriculars were not AMAZING, but had a bit of everything
Essays were music/ personality/ major based
@wuxman43 yep. I think basically everyone got it.
when does financial aid come out?
Expect it within a week of Dec. Day.
Testing hypothesis is not speculation. You need to have sample test data to reach 95%/99% confidence in your hypothesis testing. You will understand this if you have taken any stats class.
Accepted to Weinberg
SAT 1510
ACT 34
Bio & Lit Subject tests 660 & 690
Rank 8/435
Volleyball captain, softball, started debate club, amnesty International treas., NHS
Third gen legacy
8 AP’s total
School doesn’t offer IB’s
Essay was about the quarter system
National Merit Commended Student
White female, Upstate New York
Whom are you referring to? I made no such hypothesis/speculation???
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Refer to last year class profile and you will find that 61% received financial assistance, $190M awarded in need based aid during 2018-19. It states “Northwestern meets 100% of demonstrated financial need for all admitted students with loan-free financial aid packages.” Let you use your math/stats skills to determine how many students may have benefited from 190M aid last year alone. Also the numbers from 2 years back https://admissions.northwestern.edu/documents/Financial%20Aid%202017.pdf has interesting myth busters and case examples, hopefully that debunks hypothesis.
If one carefully looks at 2018-2019 common dataset, 46% of the class received need based financial aid (930 out of 1931). Another 82 received non-need based financial aid (this is probably $2,000 a year aid for national merit finalists, I am not sure what other forms of non-need based aid NU offers). And another 109 received athletic scholarships.
It still does not add up to 61% – it is possible that `financial assistance’ to 61% might include loans offered to some who were full pay after EFC calculations.
I agree that NU is very generous, and these 46% are getting 100% of their need taken care off. Still, the question remains whether there is absolutely no accounting of who has need and who can be full pay when admission decisions are made. Here are the number of students receiving need based financial aid over years
Fall 2018: 930 out of 1931
Fall 2017: 947 out of 1901
Fall 2016: 905 out of 1985
Fall 2015: 982 out of 2017
Given these numbers, I will suspect that some level of profiling goes on in making sure that more than 50% of the class is full pay andNU stays within its financial aid budget. It could be achieved through various means … a large number of ED acceptances probably helps, and there may be other tricks in play (private school attendees, legacy, some idea from profession of parents etc.).
THere’s a fine line here, IMO. The reason they say 100% of demonstrated need is taken care of for any app may mean that the people needing lesser demonstrated need/no need might have an edge due to that being a factor in admissions, just for Institutions, which are secondarily businesses afterall, to maximize possible profit.
They’ll still be able to boast about 100% of the need being able to be fulfilled, but they wont say how much for each app. The people needing lesser need are easier to be 100% satisfied, and especially when there such cut-throat competition, this could be a ‘tie-breaker’ in many cases.
You never know.
You should read this, @TheGuy1
(Taken from https://admissions.northwestern.edu/faqs/financial-aid/ )
"Northwestern has a need-blind admissions policy for U.S. citizens and permanent residents; this means that financial aid is not a factor in determining admission. Applicants are encouraged to apply for financial aid; Northwestern’s generous need-based aid program can assist in defraying the costs of your college education.
Given limited funding for non-citizens, international applicants requesting financial aid are evaluated as a separate group. Financial need is a consideration in the admission decision for international students. For more information, visit our International Student Aid page."
I have no other comment.
Makes sense, but this strengthens my argument for intl’s.
Regarding domestics, ig not so much.
You hit the nail, hence financial aid information is not distributed at time of admission, rather it is being done in a week after RD so that financial aid office has sufficient time to calculate and communicate for all accepted applicants.
it is absurd to question by a random person to university that clearly states “Need-Blind” that means admission office doesn’t know about your financial part of application, only financial aid office knows. Ofc, any institute should have better budgeting practice and controls, but to suggest that budget dictates admission decision is a mere acquisition, reality is admission process outcome dictates budget for that year, hence the big endowment is in play.
Legacy hooks has nothing to do with financial aid, to suggest all legacy hooks applicants are given admission is as absurd as to say all non-legacy applicants are non-competent.
@TheGuy1
you may have missed case examples of 2017-18 cycle. It clearly shows what NU can potentially chip in for different financial situation of students. They are not forcing parent+ loans or other high debt to students and their families unlike other for profit colleges.
why international students are looking at US colleges for need based? Don’t they have better options in their own countries? I always suggest families and friends, if you are an international applicant, your best options are graduate programs. US colleges are not an international charitable education trusts.
@osuprof and @TheGuy1 just curious, what NU experience you folks have? are you applicant parent, applicants, alumni or what else? I had clearly stated I am a parent of NU Weinberg Freshman.
I agree with the no relation between legacy hooks and FA, though they are defo. factors. I think you may have misunderstood me @PPofEngrDr
@TheGuy1 what part?