<p>i'm going to be transferring out of my current college, but the prob. is i don't know where to go - Dartmouth or NU. so i was wondering if people could tell me what they thing on the matter and pros/cons</p>
<p>Dartmouth = Ivy League / Northwestern = Not.....</p>
<p>So? Stanford/MIT aren't Ivy League either. Ivy league isn't automatically better... Northwestern certainly beats Dartmouth in more than enough things, inside and outside of school (for example, Engineering/Chem/Journalism/etc and Chicago). Falconeye what are you interested in?</p>
<p>I'd personally choose Northwestern over Dartmouth, mainly because of location.</p>
<p>Now I know were not comparing Northwestern to Stanford and MIT. :) Whether youd like to admit it or not, the Ivy League status is a big plus for many students deciding among schools. While of course I believe there are many high points that Northwestern has that Dartmouth doesnt, an Ivy League distinction is not one of them.</p>
<p>This shouldn't come down to whether or not you should attend the Ivy. Instead, you should examine what each school has to offer and determine which university would most cater to your interests. If you go to a school because of the name, you're quite lame. (ha it rhymes) I know a lot of Harvard students who are social morons that I wouldn't hire any damn day of the week.</p>
<p>definitely go and visit both.</p>
<p>both campuses are quite beautiful; dartmouth is in the mountains, and northwestern is on lake michigan.</p>
<p>and what kind of social scene would you like? dartmouth is a huge drinking school, whereas northwestern is a bit quirky and has a little bit of everything.</p>
<p>size is also a factor.</p>
<p>don't pick a school based on ivy league or not. in the end, it's the same degree: a bachelor's</p>
<p>Pick a school for whatever reason you want. Only people who don't attend Ivy League schools say it's not a factor!</p>
<p>I've spoken to so many ivy league graduates, and so many regret not going to a local state school for their undergrad and attending an ivy for grad or law school. take alexander's advice and visit each school. after stepping foot on both campuses, u'll know which one is best for u.</p>
<p>kk19131--u sound like a prestige whore, for someone that apparently got into Cornell and Penn, u seem like you made the wrong choice</p>
<p>i attended cornell my first year, and am prob going to northwestern next yr</p>
<p>Prestige whore? Me? I am no such thing. I made the right choice... apparently it is you who did not, mr. transfer student. :) </p>
<p>My only point is that the Ivy League distinction is something that differs between Dartmouth and NU, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>I got into Northwestern out of high school (along with Columbia) and transferred to Dartmouth. Lets rule out the prestige issue altogether- I think Dartmouth is a better transfer choice. Because of certain factors - the amazing orientation, the awesome transfer housing mixed in with 1st/ 2nd years, sophomore summer (BIG plus - you meet your entire class), sophomore summer RE-ORIENTATION TRIPS!, the tightknit community, sophomore rush (if you want to go greek), and the ability to still do multiple study abroads I believe Dartmouth is the best place to transfer into compared to almost anywhere. Its one of the few schools where you have many chances to socially intermingle and where missing out on first year isn't a big deal. </p>
<p>BUT if none of these things matter to you and you are the type who prefers a small group of friends over a big community atmosphere then Northwestern might be a better choice.</p>
<p>Academically and prestige-wise overall Dartmouth gets the edge, but certain "programs" at Northwestern are top (theater, journalism, engineering).</p>
<p>hey everyone - thanks for your opinions so far. ummm...right now, i'm guessing econ might be my way to go. oh, and i forgot to add that i'm from the chicagoland area...so the city locale doesn't scream as special to me as it might to some, but the close proximity of NU is nice. </p>
<p>oh and slipper - i like close knit groups of friends, but coming from uiuc (which is huge) i know that i would like a place where it is easy to just hang out with people/not get lost in the shuffle. thanks.</p>
<p>slipper, what about NU didn't work for you?</p>
<p>let's call a spade a spade</p>
<p>dartmouth is not more prestigious than northwestern</p>
<p>fine one publication to back up that claim</p>
<p>dartmouth has virtually no grad programs ranked in the top 10</p>
<p>Northwestern is MUCH stronger in econ, that's a fact, has a top 5 business school, is near a major city whereas dartmouth is located in the boonies in a reallly isolated town</p>
<p>dartmouth might be more selective, but also take into consideration, that northwestern has several schools</p>
<p>weinberg at northwestern in the equivalent of dartmouth in its entirety minus its really small and undeveloped engineering program</p>
<p>slipper does make some compelling claims about dartmouth, but there are ppl that have transferred out of dartmouth for some compelling reasons as well (i.e. how isolated it is, social life is all about drinking, it's hard to get to, etc.....)</p>
<p>i am sure the same goes for northwestern, etc....</p>
<p>"Northwestern certainly beats Dartmouth in more than enough things, inside and outside of school (for example, Engineering/Chem/Journalism/etc and >>CHICAGO<<)." </p>
<p>HA. You wish.</p>
<p>On the topic at hand, I'd say that you should consider whether or not you'd like to be in a big, major national university which is world-known, or a college which prob. won't give you the research opportunities and whatnot that a school like Northwester would. Having said that... Chicago Econ dude... that should've been your choice!!! hahah jking... congrats on NU and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Here you go bball,</p>
<p>Dartmouth 5
Northwestern 16</p>
<p>Bball, I said only one sentence about prestige, but since you started this like always here you go.</p>
<p>(Remember Dartmouth is 1/2 the size AND a smaller percentage attends law school (PR))</p>
<p>HARVARD LAW
Dartmouth 31 students
Northwestern 22 students</p>
<p>YALE LAW
Dartmouth 10 students
Northwestern 9 students</p>
<p>Now for other rankings:</p>
<p>WSJ FEEDER RANKING
Dartmouth 7
Northwestern 21</p>
<p>USNEWS RANKING (Northwestern has NEVER been ranked above Dartmouth)
Dartmouth 9
Northwestern 12</p>
<p>REVEALED PREFERENCE (<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-626.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-626.html</a>)</p>
<p>Dartmouth 10
Northwestern 21</p>
<p>LAISSEZ-FAIRE (<a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_rankings/LF_rank.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_rankings/LF_rank.htm</a>)</p>
<p>Dartmouth 7
Northwestern 16</p>
<p>The point is as far as I can tell NU has NEVER been ranked higher than Dartmouth is any US undergraduate ranking. Honestly I think rankings can be bogus but everything I have ever read shows Dartmouth has a slight prestige reputation edge over Northwestern. That in no way means you should choose it over Northwestern. You can be eqully successful after graduating from both.</p>
<p>Everyone here is seriously retarded. Who gives a **** about rankings? My God, nobody here ****s gold. Go to the school that best fits your interests and shut the hell up.</p>
<p>Slipper, if you don't mind my asking, what part of the US are you from (East, West, Midwest...) b/c I was wondering if that had an affect on where you decided to go. I also wanted to ask what you personally saw as the pros/cons of each school b/c of all the people posting, its seems as if you're the only person so far to have seen both worlds.</p>