I just sir’d to ucla but I’m scared they might recind soon.
My transfer advisor told me not to list one of my colleges(citrus) of which I took 2 transferable classes and received a c and an f. She told me not to list it bc I had trouble obtaining my official transcript from them. They erroneously listed me as a OSS student and charged me over $2000 for tuition. They refuse to release my transcript unless I pay in full (I cannot afford it). I want to pay it but it’s not possible for me currently.
I attended citrus at the same time as my main cc, lacc. So there is no gap in my education. I also did not apply for fafsa at citrus, only at lacc.
I had retaken both classes (even the c) and received a’s at my main cc.
I read more online and they stated that this is ground for dismissal as I “lied” on my application. I was my fault for blindly listening to my advisor. I know about the national clearing house and the FERPA block. I am complementing doing the block. So that UCLA won’t see citrus.
Or I want to do academic renewal but that still cannot change the fact that I cannot submit the official transcript to ucla.
I have read so much on the NCH but I always see mixed stories. Please if anyone has any insight please help!! I would be so grateful!
Hmmm, your counselor told you NOT to list the school?
You should have listed the two courses in the application and then dealt with ucla and the transcript issue after the fact, explaining the financial issue.
Anyway, I don’t know. I would be hesitant blaming the advisor when you talk to UCLA. They might not believe that. Also, if it is true you owe a school money that is grounds to rescind. They want you in good standing at all schools, both academically and financially.
So I tired to order a transcript through citrusa and I assume it worked bc they use a third party ordering system and allowed me to send a transcript (pdf) to myself.
My next step is getting academic renewal and then sending that transcript in. I know that it was ultimately my fault but I want to fix it. I am going to borrow money from a relative to resolve this issue.
How should I go about explaining to ucla? I know I have to accept the responsibility and show that I am actively trying to rectify the problem. Will I be recinded even though I am coming to them about my problem?
Ughhh it bothers me that advisors are so bad. I feel like most of the people on these forums know more about UC transfer than the advisors who are paid to know about it. Like, it’s such a no brainer that you must send all your transcripts literally anyone on here could of told you that. I’m really sorry you were misled like that. In all honesty, I think you will be rescinded. It just looks kind of bad that you happened to not report the college where you got bad grades. And I don’t think a FERPA block applies to this situation, but I may be wrong. Good luck.
If, and I’m saying “if” the counselor told you that, try to get them to verify it through an email. Don’t make it obvious. Send something like,
“Dear blah blah,
As we discussed I didn’t mention the college where the transcript hassle. But I am wondering if I should I try to work it out with the college just in case? What do you think?”
Their answer - even a lack of answer- will help strengthen your case.
I don’t mean to imply I don’t believe what you said, but I don’t know you, so it’s a he said, she said issue. That’s how the UC will interpret it. If you get some minor verification that the counselor appeared on board, it will help.
However, if you are in financial arrears with that college, that alone will most likely rescind you.
@lindyk8 That’s worth a shot, though it’s a longgg shot. Doesn’t it annoy you that an advisor could be so clueless about this? It’s like one of the first things you learn when you research transferring. And will it even say on the transcript if he/she owes money? Hopefully not.
I think the academic renewal could maybe help, because then it kind of makes it look like you would have less incentive to lie.
The transfer advisor asked me if the class was transferable and if it relates to my major or satisfies my Igetc. i said no to my major and it is an Igetc class but I already satisfy those requirements (humanities requirement).
She said “I don’t think you need to then, since we Igetc certify you”. This was 2 years ago so I don’t remember her. I also doubt she would remember our conversation.
I am about to do academic renewal at citrus first thing Monday. When it goes through ( they said less than 15 days)how should I tell ucla? That I made a mistake but it does not affect my Igetc nor gpa (with AR both grades/credit are void).
Update with the transcript request: it did not go through as the third party transcript service noticed the hold on my account. I was too hopeful I guess.
I am really freaking out here because I made the biggest mistake ever.
The way i see it, you have 3 real options. report it to UCLA, and as lindy said, you will get rescinded due to being in bad standing. Or you can not tell UCLA and hope they don’t find out. Or you can apply again for the 2015-16 school year, include the omitted grades and school, and spend the next year doing whatever it takes to earn $2000.
I don’t know that UCLA will particularly care if an advisor told you to do that it not, because the online application you completed very explicitly states in no uncertain terms that you must list all coursework at all schools.
I say contact UCLA and own up. Plan to apply again next year and take it as a learning experience. If the outcome is better then great, if not you’re prepared for it.
I will own up for my mistake. I will pay for the out of state tuition(no point in getting them to reduce the amount, too much wasted time). I will no longer be in bad standing. And I called the counseling and they can do academic renewal and take effect on the transcript in less than a week. I also called ucla but they said I need to talk to my ucla academic advisor and they will deliberate on a case by case basis. she did not say that it will be automatic recind as I explained it does not affect my gpa nor requirements. I am a little relieved that they will (maybe) consider it.
Have there been cases where a student that has been admitted forgot something and was able to admit it later??
I think the academic renewal changes things. Because if you had that, you would not even have to of reported those grades originally, other than saying you had AR, which will probably make it seem less suspicious. I could see it going either way.
So I am on the right track on clearing my financial and academic standing with Citrus. I am speaking with the dean of admission at Citrus next week to expedite my petition for academic renewal and to prove in instate residency to reduce my owed tuition for that term (if not approved, I will pay the out of state price. worth it for my future!).
I also called UCLA Admissions and they said I have to email them with my info and they will review accordingly. I got a little hopeful when the receptionist said “just email them and they will contact you on what to do next and you will be fine”. I explained that the AR will not be affecting my GPA nor requirements.
I wish I could go back and change my decisions. I thought that since i passed this initial application process, I was ok but after reading that the could run me through the national clearing house when enrolling me and prior to giving my degree, I realize it would be more dishonest to be found out later than to come clean and work with them on how to rectify the problem.
I would be surprised if you did not get rescinded if you DO report. I would try for academic renewal, and then if you UCLA contacts you, I would say that I did not think I had to report academically renewed grades since it is basically like you never took them. This, of course, is complete BS, but schools are pretty big on the academic honesty thing, and I don’t think you’re going to get in after lying.
@lbwaterpoloman So you’re telling him to fix a lie–although it wasn’t really a lie because he didn’t know–with a lie? You say schools are pretty big on honesty, and yet you’re saying to lie to cover up his mistake. I think that’s bad advice. It is possible for schools to figure out when academic renewal was done, and then he would be in even worse trouble. And even if they don’t figure out, he will go through college with that guilt and fear hanging over his head. He may of messed up, but at least at this point he has the truth on his side, and there’s a chance that will be enough.