NYC day schools rank higher than bding schools

<p>Bearcats, look at the Chapin site some more.. I don't know what this girl is doing .. she just doesn't get it. Look around the site.. look at the syllabuses!!</p>

<p>LOL! Okay, okay. Take it easy guys. No, blairt I'm not a troll. I never implied that Chapin's library had more books, I just said it was phenomenal. This includes the state of the art technology and architecture. It's been featured in several architectural magazines. But, you guys are right in that I haven't seen any of the bs libraries. I am however impressed with the Anneberg library. As for the students who opted for Andover over collegiate and Dalton, this could be the case, different strokes... however, I would check the acceptance letter. </p>

<p>It is true that those who get shut out of the tt prep schools in NYC, go to boarding school.</p>

<p>Let me try to just settle this thread once and for all:</p>

<p>Sometimes on CC, we do get too caught up in discussing boarding schools that we fail to recognize the excellence of other schools across the country. One group of schools that are consistantly regarded very highly are the New York private day schools which include Dalton, Collegiate and Chapin. However, these schools are rarely mentioned on CC because for all those students who live outside the city, they are not viable options. </p>

<p>Both New England Prep Schools and New York City day schools have always set a high standard of excellence, whether it is evidenced by the college matricultions of their students or their wide course offerings. It is hard to compare prep schools to day schools because there are so many differences between the two beyond academics. </p>

<p>Whether you go to Collegiate or Exeter, you are receiving an outstanding education. Outside of this, there are few similarities. What more can you really say?</p>

<p>what's the big deal about architecture awards anyway?</p>

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<p>btw bigblue that's one eloquent speech</p>

<p>bigblueo9, you have shamed me into silence.</p>

<p>wow, bearcats.. the music center really is amazing.</p>

<p>Yeah, bearcats that is a really awesome looking building. </p>

<p>Shannyc, I don't want everyone to stop talking about their schools. It is interesting to learn more about the schools in NYC since I don't know much about them. I think that we can all find a way to share info about our schools without arguing over petty things.</p>

<p>bigblue09, I'll try to find a way to do that whenever the situation permits. Btw, thanks for the intellect and insight you brought to this discussion.</p>

<p>ShanNYC
Big ups for a great thread...I'm moving to 137th st I'll send my next two prodigies to NYC tt instead of boarding school....just kidding. Good thread.... tru dat.</p>

<p>LOL. Spoken like a true NYer.</p>

<p>The NYC private schools and the elite boarding schools are two different kettles of fish. Some NYC students are the sons and daughters of some of the smartest, kick-ass investment bankers, lawyers and doctors in America. The parents spend big donating to their alma maters, hire tutors at $200-$600 an hour and expensive independent admission advisors, and making sure that their offspring develop a significant sport like squash, riding, sailing and fencing. These students are getting into the top colleges. In class with them are the best of the best disadvantaged minorities, mostly from the Caribbean, hand picked by and supported by Prep for Prep, ABC and Early Steps. These folks are also getting into the top schools. The top boarding schools, on the other hand, have a much wider range of students. Some are like the above, but also many are solid, great kids and a number are terrific athletes. What boarding schools are really good at is building character and fostering a desire to give back and be part of a community. Many NYC students will return to NYC to be the next wave of investment bankers, etc. but it should be noted that an unusual number of our government and civic/charitable leaders are products of boarding schools.</p>

<p>i think it's more like new money vs old money. There's a huge presense of new money in NYC day school, sons and daughters i-bankers, top shot lawyers and those types</p>

<p>the presense of wealth in BS is more old money type, the greenwich crowd in particular....with a multi-generation educated at HYP and those type..i dunno just the feeling</p>

<p>Some of the NYC day school money is as old as it gets.</p>

<p>I used to work (as a messenger and then file clerk) for a NYC estate and trust law firm. At one point, back in the 1880s, this firm represented almost 20% of the world's wealth. The names on the folders of the trusts that were still in place read like the Social Register from the turn of the century. These schools that Shannyc talks about are their schools of choice. The attitude of Shannyc -- the world revolves around NYC -- is exactly why they tend to keep their young'uns close to home.</p>

<p>And another thing...maybe it was the fact that they were too polite to let me know my place in the caste, but I have never heard "old money" talk or complain or point out distinctions between "old money" and "new money." The people who tend to do that -- as I've observed over lo these many years -- are "new money" people who put on airs that they're "old money." </p>

<p>It's the same with people who have no military background (or no active duty combat service record) who are the ones most likely in an office setting to toss around terms like "let's lock and load!" or "stand down, men, on the Amalgamated Chemical deal, until we see the fallout from that tactical nuke the court dropped on them."</p>

<p>BTW, I do not consider myself "new money." Then again, I'm not "old money" either. I'm not new. I'm not money. In short, I'm just old.</p>

<p>I'm staying out of the bigger picture discussion here, although does seem like things are calming down a bit. I do have to take exception to one comment though that strikes close to home for me. Just because a school is all girls does not by definition mean no ice hockey. Plenty of girls play ice hockey. Most boarding schools (including some of the all girl's boarding schools), a lot of the day schools outside NYC and a lot of the high schools in Massachusetts and Minnesota have girl's varsity and JV teams. Actually, my daughter's host for revisit day was a girl who had been at one of the NYC day girl's schools (Spence if I am remembering correctly) all through elementary and middle school and opportunity to play good ice hockey was one of the reasons she left for BS.</p>

<p>Although NYC schools are great, it is just not an option for many people. take me for example, i live in beijing, china. im not going to move to nyc just to go to a nyc school. And here, most people have heard of andover,exeter, choate, hotchkiss, deerfield, l'ville, and other great b.s.s but not of nyc day schools.</p>

<p>Not to stir the pot anymore but I grew up in NYC, went to Browning then off to BS, totally my choice and desire and I treasured every moment of that experience. My sisters went to Spence. One of them went away for a year, then returned to Spence where she was very happy to be back. Bottom line, to each his own.</p>

<p>For prpdd, I thought that started in 6th grade at Buckley. I guess your hoping that for now the apple falls as far away from the tree as possible.
But in all seriousness, the availability of drinking and drugging is a lot more readily available in NYC than any BS.</p>

<p>I have been following this thread for a while, and I would like to contribute my own observations-</p>

<p>While the NYC schools sound excellent, they are just not an opinon for someone who doesn't live in or near NYC. I live in the midwest, and theres not way my family is going to move just to have me go to one of these "pretigous" prep schools.</p>

<p>D'yer Maker, you're right about that NYC attitude, (as you've been about most things in all your post). This is one of the reasons I enjoy this board believe it or not. I'm really getting a bit of an education here.</p>

<p>Damaris, believe it or not, lawyers and doctors have a struggle getting their children into the tt NYC privates. These schools are looking for more balance in their student body. I would say that of course the old NY families are set because of the legacy/sibling policies, international families have a bit of an advantage, celebrities, high achieving minorities, and families that stand out in some way ie: famous writer, restaranteur, artist, etc. And, of course those with MAJOR bucks aren't at a disadvantage.</p>

<p>Ops, actually when I was in 8th grade a couple of 7th graders got caught with pot - creating huge concern among teachers,parents, etc. about why the 7th grade had such a drug problem. My 8th grade classmates, some of whom had already moved on to harder drugs, found this hysterical.:)</p>