NYU vs. NYU Abu Dhabi and NYU Shanghai

<p>Is it easier (everything else being equal, which of course it never is!) to gain acceptance to the Abu Dhabi or Shanghai campuses compared to the NYC one? Thanks, Londondad</p>

<p>Bump! Is there no love for NYU AD or Shanghai?</p>

<p>I’m not sure if it’s equal but I know people who have gone to both and the financial aid is significantly higher for NYU AD and Shanghai since they want more people to go there (obviously). Not sure about academics though</p>

<p>NYU Abu Dhabi has a very low acceptance rate, far lower than NYU in NY. The acceptance rate is 2.1% so it is rather hard to get into. To put that into perspective, Stanford has a 5% acceptance rate (the lowest in the US).</p>

<p>But presumably the admit rate is skewed by kids from the Middle East and South and West Asia who are all applying there!</p>

<p>Skewed meaning?</p>

<p>@londondad‌ the main campus at NYU is definitely harder to get into, what with its many competent applicants
NYU Shanghai needs at least 50% of native Chinese students, and the othet 50% is international students- they only just started and not many people are suuper sure about going there, so the acceptance rate is probably pretty high because the applicant pool is small.</p>

<p>NYU Abu Dhabi on the other hand, is a very small school - acceptance rates are low because it has a very small range of majors etc. </p>

<p>Both Shanghai and Abu Dhabi are new schools and not too many people are ready for them, so they might be easier to get into :)</p>

<p>@londondad‌ what exactly do you mean by skewed?</p>

<p>has anyone who applied to shanghai as their primary choice heard anything yet?</p>

<p>@singanddonotcry There are people who’ve heard back and been accepted. Look in the other threads in this forum. :)</p>

NYUAD is by far the toughest to get into (around a 1% acceptance rate). Tougher applicant pool, applicants who are admitted have much higher stats etc. Tons of people who were admitted were also accepted to other schools like Harvard.

NYUAD is often on the radar of the students applying to the top schools in the US like the Ivies while NYUNY and NYUSH really aren’t. NYUAD is basically the honors college of NYU.

I would say NYUNY is tougher to get into than NYUSH but I don’t know for sure.

NYUAD > NYUNY > NYUSH

It’s actually a little more complicated than simply comparing the acceptance rates.

While the acceptance rate at NYUAD might seem very low indeed, it is also important to know that not a lot of people apply there. Here’s the number of people that applied to NYUAD in the past few years (taken from their website), also note that more people applied to it as a second choice campus(after NYU) than as a primary choice.

Class of 2015
Total applications – - 5,858 (1,222)
dual NYUAD & NYUNY (NYUAD primary)
Total Applicants Admitted - 195

Class of 2016
Applied(NYUAD primary) - 15,520 (2,470)
Admitted - 208

Class of 2017
Applied(NYUAD primary) - 4,284(1,461)
Admitted - 204

Class of 2018
Applied(NYUAD primary) - 12,543(1,585)
Admitted - 320

So, while the acceptance rate might be smaller than say, Stanford, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s more competitive. When applying to Stanford you are basically competing against 40,000 other applicants, which is significantly more than NYUAD. Same goes for NYUNY, clearly more people apply to NYUNY as a primary interest campus. Couldn’t find any info on NYUSH about the number of applicants, it’s too new.

It is safe to say that NYUAD and now NYUSH are more popular among international students because of the great financial aid.

As for which one is better, there are far too many variables in order to create an acceptable ranking.
NYUNY is obviously the more established, offering more academic opportunities BUT its major downfall is the lousy financial aid.
As for the other two, it’s too hard to say, they need some time in order to establish themselves. So far, they are doing great, their main advantage being the financial aid.

It is actually just as simple as comparing the acceptance rates, because an acceptance rate is just that, a “rate”. That means that they are comparable measures. If we were to compare the number of students admitted as a measure of selectivity of NYUAD then yeah, you would be wrong to use that as an indicator. But an acceptance rate is a percentage of applicants who are accepted out of the applicant pool. That means that if 100 people applied to NYUAD, 1 one would be accepted, if 100 people applied to Stanford, 5 would be accepted etc. A rate is in fact indicative of the selectivity of a school.

Yes, NYUAD isn’t as sought after as NYUNY, but it is still more selective regardless of the number of primary or secondary applicants.

@sarrahhdaherr, for every 100 applicants NYUAD receives, Stanford has another 100 that are possibly far more qualified. Stanford has a larger applicant pool, thus having more qualified students to choose from. Even if its admission rate is slightly higher, they still have to make a tougher choice than NYUAD, thus making it more selective imo.

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@collegedreams11‌ ah yes, when you put it that way, I do see what you’re saying. And yes, I agree with your opinion, there is no doubt that there are a higher number of more qualified applicants applying to schools like Stanford and the Ivy League, and their choice is harder. I see your point for sure, haha it’s just not what I thought you were saying earlier.

@‌collegedreams11 “NYUNY is obviously the more established, offering more academic opportunities BUT its major downfall is the lousy financial aid.”

I disagree with that. I would say NYUAD has more opportunities given the amount of money that they grant to undergrads to pursue their interests.

Yes, NYUAD’s published acceptance rate isn’t really accurate. A more accurate acceptance rate would in my opinion be the one for those who apply to NYUAD as their first choice. Last year’s was around 20%. The pool of candidates for NYUAD is of higher caliber than NYUNY and it about 2x harder to get accepted to NYUAD. Therefore NYUAD is the more selective university.

Yes, NYUAD is not on par with schools like Stanford - yet. In my opinion, in terms of selectivity, it is on par with a school like Rice.

@FigLeaves, money doesn’t necessarily equal more academic opportunities. NYUAD offers around 20 undergraduate majors, while NYU has a lot more than that. NYU has Stern, the College of Dentistry, a school of medicine, another of law and many others. Not to mention Tisch, which is one of the most sought-after art schools in the US and probably the world.
Recent news about a NYUAD professor being denied entry into the country after criticizing the labor conditions also make me question NYUAD’s stability and integrity. Can a university foster a healthy intellectual environment if its faculty members are forced to censor their own opinions?
Also, I wouldn’t go as far as to say that NYUAD’s candidates are of a “higher caliber” than NYU. That statement is slightly ridiculous and can’t be backed up by any solid arguments.

@collegedreams11 Try comparing the standardized test scores, GPAs, and other accomplishments of the two student bodies. NYUAD’s are much higher than NYU’s.

Also, I’ve noticed that NYU may have many programs, but NYU in general doesn’t provide the average student with many opportunities. Students often can’t even take the classes they want, and the classes they do take are much more crowded.

Censorship is definitely a concern, but I feel like it’s not as big of a problem as people make it out to be.

@Madeon, having slightly higher test scores doesn’t mean that NYUAD students are of a “higher caliber”, whatever that means. NYUAD hasn’t even graduated its first class yet, but you’re trying to make it look as if it’s Sorbonne or something. No matter how much money it has, it still needs lots of time before it can claim superiority to NYUNY.

As for crowded classes, that happens at every large college, prestigious or not. Even Stanford or Yale have some classes that are harder to get into and are more crowded. Does this make them inferior to NYUAD as well? In this regard NYUAD is no better than any other LAC that boasts a small class size.

NYUAD has graduated its first class. They’ve done fairly well, even graduating a Rhodes scholar.

http://nyuad.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyuad/departments/career-development/documents/2014-FD-report-DIGITAL-FINAL%20(1).pdf