October 2009 SAT II - Literature

<p>~what about the enemies question? (the one from the wakefield passage)</p>

<p>I put that Man alone cannot forgive, he must be given aid from God or something to that effect. Looking at your excerpt it does say that he “see[s] it was more than human benevolence that first taught us to bless our enemies! Blest be His holy name… etc etc”</p>

<p>~ what is the one that keywii is talking about? The tone of the poem?</p>

<p>I have no idea.</p>

<p>~ for the Yellow Wallpaper, there was a question about how she was being obedient (another answer choice was “following expected patterns”) what do people think on this one? and the one v. I?</p>

<p>I put “following expected patterns”.</p>

<p>Also,</p>

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<li>the path of the poem: i forget this question’s answer anyone remember?</li>
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<p>Was it not “A reflective meditation about death leading to a plea for remembrance” or something similar to that?</p>

<p>yup that was definitely it (the plea for remembrance, etc.) </p>

<p>although i’m not seeing how the man can’t forgive alone/god must help fits into the part “Blest be god for all that he hath given…”</p>

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<p>Sorry Bee. It was expected patterns because the obedient question was something about being “obedient leading to freedom.” The passage didn’t really talk so much about freedom as it did about being subservient (what is expected of a lady)</p>

<p>although i’m not seeing how the man can’t forgive alone/god must help fits into the part “Blest be god for all that he hath given…”</p>

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<li>He states: “And now, my son, I see it was more than human benevolence that first taught us to bless our enemies!” meaning to say that what allows us to bless, or forgive, our enemies comes from more than just human benevolence. Then in the following line, “Blest be his holy name for all the good he hath given, and for all that he hath taken away.” he gives where exactly, then, this forgiveness for enemies comes from - God. Or at least, in my reasoning. XD</li>
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<p>Sorry Bee. It was expected patterns because the obedient question was something about being “obedient leading to freedom.” The passage didn’t really talk so much about freedom as it did about being subservient (what is expected of a la</p>

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<li>I agree.</li>
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<p>okay, well i’m not insisting i’m right or anything, my thought process was simply that she was being obedient so that she could be well enough again/free enough to go out and do as she pleased -not be bound by her husband’s orders. </p>

<p>I guess it depends on the exact wording of the patterns question, which for some reason didn’t make sense to me (especially because I’ve read the story before).</p>

<p>Looks like you got most of them right, though. Don’t cancel your score!</p>

<p>Anybody know if there is another version for the tests in foreign countries or is it exactly the same test?</p>

<p>what do you guys think will be the curve for this month’s sat ii lit?</p>

<p>haha idk jbierce :)…maybe i won’t cancel- i’ll see!</p>

<p>I hope the curve is very generous…Personally, I thought this test was definitely harder than many practice tests I’ve taken, but maybe that was just me.</p>

<p>Oh, and I’d say 44 would be the minimum to be in the 700 range (so 700+)</p>

<p>Ok, so I was running out of time when I took the lit test. I thought there were 60 questions, but from looking at these posts, it looks like there were only 53. Is that right? does anyone remember how the last two pages (last excerpt) were formatted?</p>

<p>btw, did anyone think this test was hard? like, harder than their practice tests/previous lit test taken? I studied using barron’s, and the questions on the actual test were very different (longer answers, less focus on lit terms).</p>

<p>@wildflower: there were 60 questions on the actual test, but only 53 questions and answers have been complied so far. i also thought the test was more difficult than my practice tests, and exponentially more difficult than AP Language. (i received a 5 on AP language, but then again, it wasn’t AP lit…)</p>

<p>i said youth is wasted on the young for the Edna poem. Guess I totally misinterpreted (bombed) that section, at least.</p>

<p>WEIGHING the stedfastness and state<br>
Of some mean things which here below reside,<br>
Where birds like watchful Clocks the noiseless date<br>
And Intercourse of times divide,<br>
Where Bees at night get home and hive, and flowrs 5
Early, aswel as late,<br>
Rise with the Sun, and set in the same bowrs; </p>

<pre><code>I would (said I) my God would give
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<p>The staidness of these things to man! for these<br>
To his divine appointments ever cleave, 10
And no new business breaks their peace;<br>
The birds nor sow, nor reap, yet sup and dine,<br>
The flowres without clothes live,<br>
Yet Solomon was never drest so fine. </p>

<pre><code>Man hath stil either toyes, or Care, 15
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<p>He hath no root, nor to one place is ty’d,<br>
But ever restless and Irregular<br>
About this Earth doth run and ride,<br>
He knows he hath a home, but scarce knows where,<br>
He sayes it is so far 20
That he hath quite forgot how to go there. </p>

<pre><code>He knocks at all doors, strays and roams,
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<p>Nay hath not so much wit as some stones have<br>
Which in the darkest nights point to their homes,<br>
By some hid sense their Maker gave; 25
Man is the shuttle, to whose winding quest<br>
And passage through these looms<br>
God order’d motion, but ordain’d no rest.</p>

<p>[Henry</a> Vaughan: Poem analysis » Man » Metaphysical Poetry Study Guide from Crossref-it.info](<a href=“Free English Literature Study Guides - Crossref-it.info”>Man » Metaphysical poets, selected poems Study Guide from Crossref-it.info)</p>

<p>i dont think the tone is contemptuous towards man</p>

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<li>a debate with no apparent winner</li>
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<p>Arrg. That WAS my answer before I changed it to “an endorsement of blah blah blah” at the very very last minute. I remember G clapped at the end and thought the debate actually had one winner and G’s values have been eroded. But now, I am quite sure it is not right…</p>

<p>Did anyone have an answer for the R&G passage about how Guildenstern was trying to instruct Rosencrantz? Or something like that? The passage seemed like a tutorial to me.</p>

<p>I have to disagree with the apparent consensus on the "remains question. In the text, the “remains” the question specifically asks about are mentioned in the second half of a list that already mentions the children. Thus, the answer should have been either the women’s worldly possessions or her body. Did anyone else approach it like this?</p>

<p>Nevermind… I just reread it and am clearly wrong.</p>