Official 2017 Waitlist Discussion

<p>What a sham. U of Chicago wait listed a gazillion applicants but accepted virtually no one, as far as I can see.</p>

<p>Reeejected. :slight_smile: Lol. Where are the accepts?</p>

<p>my daughter was rejected via email last night too. she is very bummed. ouch. curious to know their yield…did they take anyone from the WL? </p>

<p>best of luck to all of you moving forward w/ other colleges.</p>

<p>My D rejected last night as well. At this point she had already decided not to enroll even if accepted off waitlist, though it was originally her 1st choice school.</p>

<p>My son also got the rejection notice last night.
He was on waitlists for multiple Universities and didn’t clear any of them.</p>

<p>This has put tons of pressure on him going into his AP Tests. The waitlist round was more brutal than the original application round. </p>

<p>Somehow I feel the false hope of the waitlists is very cruel to the applicants. The only benefits to the current waitlist structure are to the Universities.</p>

<p>We knew that our D got highest in 21st rank institute and higher than that will be luck. So this acceptance would have created an issue, we want her to go to UT Austin but she wants to go to these top notch schools where they have close to hundred students in class taught by someone who worked very hard 30 years back and cannot even keep track of his medications daily (I am one of them.) Good to see some news so wait is over.</p>

<p>@parent 2017 - just pm’d you.</p>

<p>Rejected. I didn’t send a LoCI, so I’m not surprised I wasn’t given a spot. Although speaking to a friend who did send one, I don’t think there were any spots available for waitlisted students in the first place, especially considering the diminished housing this year.</p>

<p>I agree, the waitlist round has been very cruel, even worse than the admissions round. To give 1000’s of students hope for 20 spots is fairly ridiculous, and even then there is absolute uncertainty about those few spots until after the kids are supposed to make up their minds. Am I the only person who is bothered by the fact that the time-frames for notification and the processes by which students are notified are unclear and vary from college to college? I think the colleges are “hedging their bets” and the students lose, because to be waiting, on pins and needles (with no absolute notification dates going in, no deadlines for the school), then twice-rejected, well it is a horrible experience to make kids endure. </p>

<p>While no one ever said attending any institution was a certain promise, I feel the schools should be much kinder and more ethical in their treatment of these students. I am starting to think the waitlists should be done away with completely. I actually respect U of Chicago for setting a deadline and getting back to you, as harsh as it feels to be released from the waitlist. It shows integrity and care for all students, not just those who are enrolled at their school, at an institutional level.</p>

<p>@greetosola: I don’t see anything remotely unethical about how they treat wait listed students.</p>

<ol>
<li> They give you all the data so you can see how many people get wait listed every year.</li>
<li> They also tell you how many people get off the wait list every year.</li>
<li> They tell you how many people are put on the wait list this year.</li>
<li> They tell you to make sure that you accept an offer somewhere.</li>
</ol>

<p>They are totally transparent and if you do the math you should know that the odds are between slim and none.
In light of those facts, you can hold out hope that you will be taken off the wait list or you can move on.</p>

<p>I was accepted off waitlist for 2018, but ended up turning it down for financial reasons. Hopefully it goes to someone else if some people are still waiting for a decision. Good luck!</p>

<p>@slowmango, when did you hear from them? Was it Weds, or sometime earlier?</p>

<p>CollegeDad, where was the information from items 1-3? There was a large kerfuffle on the boards here when decisions were released, with everyone wanting to know how many people were on this year’s WL; and when we asked Grace in the Ask A UChicago Rep, she declined to answer. When I personally tried to search for the data from points 1-2 I couldn’t find it; I know that College Board’s Big Future division keeps info from other school’s wait lists and had Chicago’s info at some point last summer, but it has since been removed. The only logical reason that would have happened would be at the college’s request. The only information I saw them give about the number of people accepted off is “few.”</p>

<p>According to the New York Times, here are the waitlist numbers for a few other schools or ‘not reported’ if they chose not to disclose their numbers:</p>

<p><a href=“2013 College Acceptance Rates - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com”>2013 College Acceptance Rates - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com;

<p>Columbia not reported
Brown not reported
Cornell 3,146
Dartmouth not reported
Duke not reported
Harvard not reported
Northwestern not reported
Penn not reported
Washington U not reported</p>

<p>I have found not just U-Chicago, but the other (3) schools DS was waitlisted at to be very non-transparent in their numbers and processes, to the point of adding stress, false hope and frustration. Actually U-Chicago has been better than most, as most are still not providing any clear dates for final notification/release, and U-Chicago has done that, as painful as it has been. </p>

<p>I am not sure what to do about this frustration though. I really would like to see more dialogue between applicants and colleges, perhaps through a group such as the National Association for College Admission Counseling. </p>

<p>FYI, this is the current document that summarizes admissions “best practices” for post-secondary institutions, including use of waitlists:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nacacnet.org/about/Governance/Policies/Documents/SPGP.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nacacnet.org/about/Governance/Policies/Documents/SPGP.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I read the document as recommending that students be given those numbers (how many students are being offered a spot on the list, for example) with the waitlist offer, not just hidden in a remote CDS somewhere. There is also an accelerating debate and concern about the large size of waitlists at schools that have stable yield – do they have to go into the thousands? – but this really isn’t the place for that.</p>

<p>rejected :(</p>

<p>@dynamicsemantics</p>

<p>My mistake. Sorry.
I thought UChicago published the CDS info.
I saw links that referenced them, but those links don’t work.</p>

<p>As a fellow UC wait list reject, I’m thinking that the outcome this year had more to do with the school’s increase in popularity than any of us. Chicago’s applicant pool has grown massively over the past few years along with the competition to get in to other elite schools, leading many students that would have turned down UC in the past to accept their best option. </p>

<p>The lack of “transparency” in the wait list process is also tricky. From what I understand, universities, after a certain point of sorting out everyone but the most qualified students, are trying to build a microcosmic community within a class. Once they put this together, they are subject to students’ decisions of whether or not they attend. This leaves the wait list students with another variable: admissions officers try to re-build a diverse class from those people on the wait list while taking in to consideration student interest. That means if a first - generation Russian bassoon player turns the school down, they’ll be looking for a similar woodwind player. Admissions can’t rank students on the wait list because it’s not a matter of #1 to #375; it’s about reconstructing the community that the admissions department tried to assemble in the first place. </p>

<p>So…we were all at the mercy of too may qualified applicants accepting spots and the arbitrary machinations of the admissions department. It happens. Luckily, we all retain what attracted us to UC in the first place, and that “life of the mind” will follow us wherever we go.</p>

<p>here’s a link to an article that tells the tale, if it helps anyone feel less badly.
[Class</a> of ?17 yield above 50 percent ? The Chicago Maroon](<a href=“Laureate discusses themes in contemporary poetry – Chicago Maroon”>Laureate discusses themes in contemporary poetry – Chicago Maroon)</p>