<p>Hey z00b are you definitely going there? See man, I just have a hard time with working tooaccomplish all that I did just so that I can go to a school that accepts like 50% of applicants anyway. I know UMich has amazing programs and that some very intelligent people go there, but doesn't this bother you too? Any students out there with input on the Honors Program??? Ive heard mixed reviews and i'd really like to know the truth about it.</p>
<p>chibears - I don't think you should make your college decision based on what % of students are admitted. If you think you can only learn in an environment where everyone is about the same level of intelligence - then Michigan isn't for you. If you go to Michigan, there will be kids who didn't score as high as you on their SATs - but then there will also be kids who are so much smarter than you - even if you are a genius, there's probably someone who is a bigger genius than you.
As for Honors - I think most people are happy they started in Honors, but a lot of students do not see it through to graduation. The academic requirements are pretty rigid and you have to write a thesis. A couple of big benefits are that you get to live in South Quad and you're hanging out with the brightest students (except Engineering - they can't be in Honors).</p>
<p>im with you a little chibearsfan. I know michigan is great and i know that im being superficial by thinking that i should not go to michigan because its a state school with high acceptance rates and not so prestigious of a reputation. But I cant help but think that if i get into an ivy or other more prestigious private university, i should go there just because i have worked so hard through high school. anyways, gettign into honors might seal the deal for me, but im waiting on penn...</p>
<p>While most students in the honors program receive between a 1400 and 1520 on there SAT, there are also several students who are accepted with lower SAT scores- like me. While I achieved a COMBINED score of 1410 if you mix and match math and verbal, I only received a 1380 on a single test (which I believe Michigan only uses). </p>
<p>My stats are listed below:</p>
<p>SAT: 1380 (M:690, V: 690)
SAT IIs: 720 (World Hist), 720 (Math IC), 710 (Chemistry)
GPA: 4.17 Unweighted (A+ Average)
Rank: Does not rank- about top 5% of class</p>
<p>Current High School Courses
Economics- H
Political Science- H
Math 4-H
A.P. Physics
A.P. Biology
A.P. Latin
A.P. English Literature</p>
<p>Subjective:
Essays: Very good essay- on science and religion (compared the influence of religion on the works of Einstein, Freud and Lewis and effect of science on my religious beliefs)
Teacher Recs: Two great
Counselor Rec: Good
Hook (if any): Scientific Research at Yale Medical School (recommendation letter from faculty member at Yale Medical School)</p>
<p>Location/Person:
State or Country: New York
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male</p>
<p>STRENGTHS- Extremely competative Public HS- Nationally ranked. Will have taken seven A.P.s by the end of high school. Taking both A.P. Biology and A.P. Physics senior year. Received 5s on A.P. Chem and A.P. World Hist. exams. Scientific Research at Yale (for Cystic Fibrosis) . Community Service- raised $15,000 for the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. Twin brother accepted ED I at Wash U. Captain of track teams for 5 seasons- #1 runner for high school and possible recruit at Wash U. Only member of class of 100 to receive citizenship awards. 2 Science Awards and Yale Book Award.</p>
<p>WEEKNESSES- Not as strong in English- only 680 on SAT II and did not do well on A.P. Exam (did not submit score). No family members attended Mich. Guidance department is weak. (For general info- deferred from Yale)</p>
<p>EC's: Running for all three seasons in high school. Silver metalist at State Championship meet. Ran 4:30 for mile, 9:59 for two mile, 2:04 for 800 m. Sailed for 10 yrs. during the summer. Performed CF research at Yale Medical School during the summer. Assistant teacher for 1st and 2nd Grade classes in sophmore and junior years (during free periods 3 hours per week). Runathon for Cystic Fibrosis (earned $15000 dollars for CF Foundation). Paid tutor for middle school students. </p>
<p>Hope this helps- shows that SATs aren't everything</p>
<p>Your weakness definately lies in English ;)</p>
<p>For those of you who sent an e-mail and were accepted to the Honors Program, what did you say in the e-mail?</p>
<p>Were you notified via regular mail or e-mail?</p>
<p>and how long did notification take?? (i sent my e-mail in yesterday)</p>
<p>How did you get 2nd place with those times? In Indiana, those times wouldn't be anywhere close to making the state meet, let alone getting second.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input pman and topcat. I know full well that if I go to UMich, there are going to be people who aren't as bright as me and also people who are much smarter. However, I still feel that somehow they won't be the same caliber as maybe an MIT where you get true GENIUSES all around you. I'd like it if i was of below-average intelligence at my university of choice because it would mean i have that much more to learn from other students. In HS, there are a handful of students on my level, and I think it's cool to have convos and kinda compete with them, but how much cooler would it be to share a classroom with the smartest kids in the country? That and the fact that U of Michigan Honors still doesnt sound as good as Harvard is really bugging me. Argh....freaking names. I think i need help.</p>
<p>My son was accepted to UM. His application indicated an interest in the Residential College. Does that letter come separately?</p>
<p>topcat0214 wrote: A couple of big benefits are that you get to live in South Quad and you're hanging out with the brightest students (except Engineering - they can't be in Honors).</p>
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<p>Where is this laid out? My son was just admitted to LSA. He is outstanding in math and physics. He even wrote in his app that he might want to take engineering at some point. There was nothing on the LSA Website I could find.</p>
<p>This website should answer most questions: <a href="http://www.lsa.umich.edu/honors%5B/url%5D">http://www.lsa.umich.edu/honors</a></p>
<p>Students are invited to the Honors Program after being admitted to the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts. The Honors Program searches for students whose admission files strongly indicate that they are well suited to an especially challenging academic program. We are looking for students who want to engage in active inquiry and who are eager for a vigorous intellectual community.</p>
<p>There is no typical Honors student, because Honors students academic interests and extra-curricular activities vary widely. And we dont have hard-and-fast cut-off numbers for invitations to the Honors Program. Honors students are characterized by their focus and engagement as well as by their achievements. For the class entering in the Fall 0f 2004, the median SAT range was 1390-1480; the median ACT range was 32-35; the median range for unweighted academic GPA was 3.8-4.0. Students who want to ensure they are considered for an invitation to the Honors Program may write directly to request consideration. You may send your request either via email or snail mail (no need to do both; one will suffice).</p>
<p>Email to: <a href="mailto:honors.admissions@umich.edu">honors.admissions@umich.edu</a>.
Conventional mail: Honors Admissions
1330 Mason Hall
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1027 </p>
<p>We encourage you write to us as soon as youve been admitted to the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts.</p>
<p>Anyone interested in the UM Honors Program might want to read the Fall 2004 issue of the LS&A Magazine that they send to alumni. I don't have it in front of me, but I remember something to the effect that the school was revisiting the Honors Program and wanted to revitalize it.</p>
<p>My suggestion is to investigate the program thoroughly, before you sign on to something just because it says "Honors Program."</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion, UMDAD. I tracked down the link:</p>
<p>There appear to be 3 articles on the Honors program.</p>