OFFICIAL October SAT Literature Thread

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<p>i got most of the same answers as you. some answers i remember choosing that were different than yours: </p>

<p>first passage: i put "to be remembered by her husband with love" or whatever it said. i almost put the virtues one, but then i reread the answer choice and it said "memories of her virtues to replace her faults" or something like that, and the poem didn't mention her virtues replacing her faults, she merely admitted she had faults and that she wishes her husband will protect her child from the stepmom, etc. not sure if that's correct...</p>

<p>second passage about livy: i also put "courage and rashness" but it said "respectively," and wasn't it the son who thought his father was being "rash"? so i don't know... </p>

<p>i put "we're all human and we can't condemn another human's faults" for the one about what his father said after the son calls him out on his cursing. </p>

<p>oh i also got the same roman numerals for the queen one! that one was weird... totally guessed on a couple of questions. </p>

<p>same with the arthur passage.. although i don't remember the "undercuts" answer. </p>

<p>tone for the willie/hally/sam one was inventive and allegorical. </p>

<p>and i put people's outword looks for the last one.</p>

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<p>for the ballroom one...i thought it was inventive and analogy or something like that</p>

<p>also, charlotte trying to distance herself from arthur? and what did obscurely mean....slowly?</p>

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<p>obscurely.. i said "unexpectedly." was that for the little boy and darkness passage?</p>

<p>for "thy friend" in the first one i put the speaker's husband.</p>

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<p>im positive the answer to the father's resolution thing is that something more than the human state is required to forgive.. there was an explicit reference to it when he praises god and providence for being necessary to forgive ppl</p>

<p>also, thy friend refers to the speaker. the speaker is talking to the husband (implying thy), so her husbands friend would be herself</p>

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<p>i put secretly but i don't know why.
oh! i forgot the darkness/child one. darn
what does the 1st sentence of the passage do?
and was the tension: yearning for companionship v. privacy</p>

<p>ugh i put inventive and analogical at first. i don't know if i changed it or not.</p>

<p>i guess to be remembered with love for the first one makes sense, but i put "to regard her faults as virtues" and it was in a line in the poem. unless i totally misinterpreted/misread.</p>

<p>skipped 3, missed i'm guessing..6 or so? (so far..probably a lot more) what is that</p>

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<p>obcurely = indefinably</p>

<p>friend = writer</p>

<p>other women = worth forgetting?</p>

<p>Arthur nervous = weak constitution</p>

<p>likes air = undermined(?) by what he goes on to say</p>

<p>I didn't put courage and rashness, I put something else that I don't remember!</p>

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<p>oh. weak constitution? eeks. i just thought he was nervous because of being around Charlotte.<br>
yeah i got the undermined/under___ answer.
there was prudence and willfulness, but i changed it to courage and rashness. </p>

<p>i think i missed: obscurely, inventive/analogical, alcohol on hand, nervous Arthur....a lot more.
can someone tell me what skip 3, miss 6 is?</p>

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<p>LOL. The Moses and Deborah passage made me crack up because of how dramatic they were.</p>

<p>The test was HARD. -__-.</p>

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<p>I didn't put "courage/rashness" for the question about Dick and his father re: fortitude. Why would the father refer to his own version of fortitude as rashness? It would be viewed by someone else (like his son) as rashness, but not by himself. I circled in the answer that was about stoicness and...violence, or something. Dick reprimands his father for not being a calming force for his mother, meaning he expected a measure of stoicness from him. At the same time, the father probably thought (at that moment) that true fortitude or "strength" was finding the man who snatched his daughter and making him pay through means of physical force.</p>

<p>About the mother, I think I wrote down the one about anger. Because she seemed bitter at her daughter's "deceit". But there might have been a better choice. </p>

<p>I think I got a different answer for the father's resolution, too. Again, can't remember the choices, or even what I said.</p>

<p>Indefinably for obscurely. Obscurely doesn't really have a connotation of slow or unexpected. In every sense of the word it means unclear, unilluminated--whether metaphorically or literally.</p>

<p>I put quickly forgotten for the poem about the woman, but that one I'm really iffy about. The poet explicitly states that the women will be quickly forgotten, but by that, and by the content of the rest of the poem, he implies that they are also worth forgetting. One can easily say that the poem is 100% his opinion; for all we know the girl he loves isn't so great at all. And the first few lines where he demeans the other women as women who will be quickly forgotten is not necessarily a truth, is it, a fact that came to pass? He's merely conjecturing, really, except he's so sure of his opinions that he tries to pass them off as facts. So the better answer might be "worth forgetting". Those other women are so worth forgetting that he is certain they will be quickly forgotten. What was the exact question again? </p>

<p>And what were the roman numerals? I can't remember the answers to half these questions. Also, the choices for the superfluous question? </p>

<p>For the last couplet, I said they were there to reiterate the main themes brought about in the above quatrains. Because the poet begins by stating how other women are fleeting, because they will soon be forgotten, whereas what he gives her (his poetry? his romantic dedication?) will make her immortal. And he basically repeats the same spiel in the last two lines. </p>

<p>Arthur is nervous: nervous constitution. I didn't think he literally meant he was nervous around Charlotte. I also said that Charlotte was a bit disdainful of him. He says that he's a really pathetic guy before evening, and she silently and snidely mentions that she can totally imagine that. </p>

<p>Telephone ring = mundane. I'm shaky on this one too though. If I could recall the exact wording of the choices, I think I could choose between this one and the dramatic one.</p>

<p>Oh, and what did you put for the other I, II or III question in the darkness passage? My memory is as pathetic as Arthur is before dinner.</p>

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<p>crap. i read "indefinably" as "indefinitely." i truly am illiterate.</p>

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<p>hmm, I put "slowly" for the "darkening" passage because I thought it represented the slow passage of time both by the darkening of the room and the slow realization of the kid.</p>

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<p>likewise, i thought obscurely derived its denotation from the context around it... which conveys a sense of the darkness slowly creeping up</p>

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<p>i thought on the first one with the woman and the baby
that the sentence and knot meant death and birth. </p>

<p>or something like that. i took the knot to be the umbilical cord, but thinking back it probably should have meant marriage.</p>

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<p>i actually thought the test was pretty easy. but that was because we've recently been taking a lot of practice exams in my AP lit class, so the SAT subject test was a breeze by comparison.</p>

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<p>I thought the test was okay....easier than expected because everyone who took it kept telling me what a beast of a test it can be.....here are my answers, as I remember them-</p>

<ol>
<li>Remains=children
Wants husband to remember her lovingly
Happier life=something involving remarriage
chance=speaker's death
Sentence and knot=death and marriage
friend=speaker</li>
</ol>

<p>2.fortitude=stoic restraint and violence
forgiveness=he's only human and so should forget other humans
abrupt changes in mood
mother's reaction=defeated resignation
mother blames livy herself</p>

<ol>
<li>women=quickly forgotten
more praise than she deserves
cant remember roman numerals one
couplet=reiterate ideas in rest of poem</li>
</ol>

<p>4.Charlotte confident
forgot about replies
nervous=weak constitution
recent acquaintances
air=undercuts/undermines what it by what he says next
author amused by aurthur</p>

<ol>
<li>Willie=welcome to playing along or smthn
Diffs between Hally and Sam and Willie=different views of ballroom dancing?
criticize politics
phone=brining them back to more mundane things
inventive and analogical
Willie's dancing adds physical dimension to conversation between other two</li>
</ol>

<p>RANDOM OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN REMEMBER:
obscurely=indefinably
parents protective of children
mother's death in sentence one=chronological? or child's hopes and fears? I'm not sure what I put
Charles alcohol on hand
pretended to be unfazed or whatever
ethereal
beauty=all peoples' outward appearences
writer scientifically and detachedly observing
taht's about everything i can recall</p>

<p>Any agreements? disagreements? other comments?</p>

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<p>i didn't get the resignation answer for the mom... i don't remember the other choices though. </p>

<p>i think i put "she gets too much praise that she's used to it" for the queen one. don't remember the one about the undermines or the context...</p>

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<p>Do you remember the South Africa passage, where Willie said "bumps" a lot? What did the "bump" mean? There were two answers that seemed right</p>

<p>... i put conflicts that end peacefully...</p>

<p>but it could have been something else :S</p>

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<p>Anybody remembers what was the answer for the implicit meaning of the word "fly" in the sonnet?</p>

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<p>i think i put something about being a banner (flying over everyone else)/setting high standards because she was portrayed as superior to all women. </p>

<p>ugh i was going to put disappointed resignation, but then changed it to paralyzing grief. she seemed pretty shocked/sorrowful, but paralyzing grief might be too strong, yet disappointed resignation doesn't fit exactly either. </p>

<p>for the "bump" question, i put something about conflict and harmony. i can't remember the exact wording.</p>

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<p>Well, I thought it'd be worse. xD The first poem, the one with the dying woman...I thought it was a guy at first. DX I don't know why. =/ And the one with the father that has mood swings... I'm sure I did poorly on that one.</p>