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CautiousPessimism, which college did you apply to at Oxford? did you need an interview as an overseas applicant? i applied to Queen's.
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<p>I did a open-admission, so I didn't pick any college...I just didn't know enough about them. And yes, I had an interview at NYC - the very same format as in the UK, I was told.</p>
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i was wondering, how common is it for american kids to apply to Oxford or Cambridge?
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<p>I'm not certain about this one...since the acceptance rate is around 20%, it's not uncompetitive. But since the Americans that generally look in that direction are just the ones that may have happened to stumble across it by chance, I'm not certain how competitive the pool is. From anecdotal/personal evidence (so take it warily), I don't think many of the best and brightest in the US are too aware of the opportunities offered by Oxbridge, or feel that US universities give them more opportunity, or that it's simply too much of a hassle to apply overseas. The end up at HYPS, instead.</p>
<p>Hey jimmy, oxford decisions are out? Do they notify everyone at the same time? I'm in Singapore and all the oxbridge applicants are still waiting for their decisions. Supposed to be out some time around Christmas...</p>
<p>Personally, even if Cambridge accepts me, I'll choose Princeton since I don't have a clear major in mind and don't want to be stuck doing Natural Sciences. From what I gather, if you are sure about the course you want to take, Oxbridge is a better choice because the lessons are more structured and in-depth than in the US. But if you want a broad-based education, then Princeton will be what you are looking for.</p>
<p>SweetistSith, do you think you can send in your SAT 2 scores and teacher recs and to be considered for RD? In mid November, we had updated information on one of my D's ECs that we wanted considered and I called the Pton secretaries and asked them what to do. They said we could send in an amendment to our EC answer (which we did). They also told me they wanted to give all the applicants every opportunity to present the best of themselves. So if you call the secretaries and explain the situation that the SAT 2s and teacher rec were never received, they just might reconsider your application RD after they receive the information. You sound like an amazing person with a wonderful attitude that will get you far in life. Good luck to you and Merry Christmas too!</p>
<p>the results for Oxford are out for some colleges. also, it depends what subject you applied for. although Princeton is incredible and known worldwide, do you not get the feeling that Oxford and Cambridge are still the original thing? one huge plus about going to Oxford for me is that I only have to pay £2000 odd per annum. which must equal something just under $4000.</p>
<p>Well, the idea has been broached, and I am actually seriously considering it. I'm going to call on Monday and double check that they didn't recieve them, because I'm not 100% positive, I also don't know if they got my mail packet with my transcript and stuff <em>shrug</em> </p>
<p>I was wondering how crazy it sounded though, thanks for suggesting! Makes it seem like more of an idea, if that makes sense, lol. It almost sounds like applying RD after you were rejected ED, and that doesn't really sound logical...Unless it was considered as an application that never got evaluated, which I don't think it would have if they never got all the requirements.</p>
<p>SweetistSith, I think you should try. Explain exactly what happened because it is not your fault if they never received your SAT 2 or teacher rec. Do you have a receipt or something that you had sent the SAT 2 scores? Be sure to tell them you never got notification if missing things were received. There is a secretary there at Pton named Elaine that is particularly supportive and encouraging. Maybe ask for her and explain what happened. There is an admissions counselor there named Roomy (Sp? - don't know how to spell his name but is sounds like "Roomie") that is equally as nice and wonderful and I'm sure they would help you. You are not trying to challenge their decision, you are wondering if the scores and rec were inadvertently missing and affected the outcome. If the scores and rec really did go missing, it seems that keeping you in the pool for admissions should be the likely thing. I wish I could help you call and advocate for you. It wasn't your fault if those things are lost/missing and you sound so wonderful with such a fabulous attitude.
Merry Christmas and God bless you. He certainly does have a plan for your life no matter what. Who knows, if Pton doesn't work out - you might get into other ivies! But please call and have them investigate. I'm rooting for you!</p>
<p>hey you said you were from florida and were at the symposium....did you 1) sit at the same table as the dean of admissions at that dinner and 2) ride the train with me back to Newark and some girl you knew from duke camp or something..you were wearing a freshly purchased pton tshirt perhaps? just curious...</p>
<p>Jimmy, I got the package by US post, just like all of the other Americans. And yes, to tell the truth I do feel that Oxbridge is the original -- because it is. However, an American uni is simply more sensible for me.</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: No
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 800 CR, 700 M, 740 W
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800 Literature, 770 US History, 750 Biology-M, 700 Math I
[</em>] ACT: -
[<em>] APs: English 5, US History 4, Psychology 5, Calculus AB 4
[</em>] IBs: Psychology SL 6
[<em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 5.0019 W
[</em>] Rank: 6/155 (ROTC brings it down.)
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: AP/IB Euro History HL, AP/IB Biology HL, IB Math Methods SL, ROTC IV, IB Theory of Knowledge, AP/IB French IV HL, IB English HL
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: ED 1, me
[<em>] Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: four years in AFJROTC, third-in-command, etc etc. Debate president, 12 years of piano, Young Democrats, Interact, NHS, all that stuff
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: I teach piano and I worked at the hospital for a couple of months.
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): The influence one, the awe-inspiring experience one (I wrote about walking on the pavement barefoot here in the US and not being able to do that in China), and how I imagine serving the country. Average, in my opinion.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: One really good, one average.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: I don't know, I think she likes me.
[<em>] Interview (feel and general location): It was pretty good, it lasted for an hour. He was a lawyer, so it was at his firm.
[</em>] Hook (if any): An Asian ROTC Nazi? Pretty rare in SC but maybe not other places.
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: South Carolina
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): small public high school, predominantly black, IB program ultra competitive
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Income Bracket: upper upper middle
[<em>] Gender: female
[</em>] Hooks: I think this is on here twice.
[<em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: ROTC for both - it brings down my GPA and rank but it's my main leadership.
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: My rank, maybe my essays? I don't know. My test scores weren't that great either.
[/ul]Other Factors: General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I guess it's time to try for Harvard, although I don't know how I'll get in there either.</p>
<pre><code>* Fee Waiver Used?: No
* SAT I (by section): 770CR, 800 M, 780 W
* SAT IIs: Math 800 Chem 790 Phy 780
* ACT: -
* APs:
* IBs:
* GPA,
* Rank:
* Senior Yr Courseload:
* Number of Apps from Your School: i know of 3, perhaps a few more
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<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* ECs listed on app: above average ECs
* Job/Work Experience: 3 jobs in the ast 3 winter breaks
* Essays (subject and responses): 1 good essay fave quote; 1 decent essay on influence ; 1 dumb essay on helping community
* Teacher Recs: Good
* Counselor Rec: She sucks, first year she's doing it. decent.barely.
* Interview (feel and general location): Didnt think it went all too well, but alright.
* Hook (if any): nada.
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<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country: Singapore
* School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): top school
* Ethnicity: Indian
* Income Bracket: upper middle
* Gender: male
* Strengths/Weaknesses: I wasn't the strongest applicant academically - I think that made the difference.
* Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Probably my not-all-straight-As record. maybe something totally random.
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<p>Congrats, commiserations,happy waiting - take your pick.I finallyy got a decision- been waiting sooo long. Ah well, all the best in March.</p>
<p>hey you said you were from florida and were at the symposium....did you 1) sit at the same table as the dean of admissions at that dinner and 2) ride the train with me back to Newark and some girl you knew from duke camp or something..you were wearing a freshly purchased pton tshirt perhaps? just curious...</p>
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<p>Yea, I'm from FL, I did sit with her, and did ride the train back, and I did know a girl from a Duke camp. Haha and I'm wearing that T-shirt right now because now I can finally wear it and know I don't have to burn it or something. Haha so who are you?</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: M:800, V:660, W:680
[</em>] SAT IIs: Math IIC: 800, Korean: 800, Physics: 710
[<em>] GPA: UW:3.9, W:4.5
[</em>] Rank: 7/298
[<em>] Other stats:
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[</em>] Essays: I thought they were legit
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Solid
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Stellar
[<em>] Hook (if any): well... I've been in America for 4 years,and still learning english: I challeged myself by talking A LOT of English classes (got As in most of them, including AP ENGLISH LIT), pretty solid math SAT scores
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country:CA
[<em>] School Type:PUB
[</em>] Ethnicity:AZN
[li] Gender:M[/li][/ul]Other Factors:I don't have citizenship nor Permanent residence, thus I'm INT'l General Comments: Princeton can suck a big one, my aim is to go to stanford now...with hopefully improved SAT on december(around 2300-ish?)</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: Nope
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 750M, 800V
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800M2, 790 Phsyics, 800 Chem
[</em>] ACT:
[<em>] APs: Non-existent
[</em>] IBs:
[<em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted:
[</em>] Rank: 1 out of 221
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: I finished school. However I did the most toughest course available at my school!
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School:1
[<em>] Other stats:
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[</em>] ECs listed on app: Rugby, Table Tennis, Badminton, Community Service
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: Supermaket utility worker :)
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): Communitys service, maths and rugby!
[<em>] Teacher Recs: no idea. Must've been great I guess!
[</em>] Counselor Rec: no idea
[<em>] Interview (feel and general location): Was good interview on the day. Although the latter games he played with me makes me wanna hit him hard :p
[</em>] Hook (if any): heh
[/ul][ b]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Australia
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Quaker- Private
[<em>] Ethnicity: Half Half
[</em>] Income Bracket: mid-high
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Hooks:
[<em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: School grades, SATS and sheer depth in EC's. Weakness: International, slightly scrappy essays
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Must be my luck
[/ul][ b]Other Factors:** General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:</p>
<p>Shouldn't we ask the people to also put in whether they applied for fin aid? I think this is more important than to know their income level. anyway, we can change it for RD</p>