<p>So obviously a 2350 and 2380 (cumulative) without any prep has no potential. That's touching to know.</p>
<p>On an off note, does anyone else dislike how insincere the rejection letter seems?</p>
<p>Rejected, o well. I didn't think I'd get in anyway.</p>
<p>Good job, Ykim :)</p>
<p>It does seem kind of unfair, but that's how it is. It's been that way for ages.
Also, don't be quick to assume that everyone who attends private school or belongs to a high income bracket is getting expensive private tutoring. I for one have never had a tutor for anything, and I know many of my friends haven't either. Sure, there are a bunch of kids I know who have tutors for each subject and basically can't get through school without them, but they're not THAT common.</p>
<p>"So obviously a 2350 and 2380 (cumulative) without any prep has no potential. That's touching to know."</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>OMG, couldn't resist... I'm back...</p>
<p>Tbh tho, its not really about being the best qualified applicants, its more about fitting in with the rest of the pool. If 100 IMO kids applied, half would be rejected... its the way life works...</p>
<p>And please, those who got in, don't rant about how you all deserved your spots. We know you're all very qualified but remember that there are also other very qualified people out there who didn't get in. Its unreasonable to think that you're more qualified than someone just because you got in. </p>
<p>Stop ranting about how high sat scores doesn't equal intelligence, etc as well. I don't gloat about having a 2400 so I'd like others to at least have the consideration not to start slandering people with high test scores. Yes, we know they're not a perfect indicator but then why did you all not get a high score? It does say something, even though it is not a wholistic evaluation. And please, its not like we didn't work towards getting that higher score.</p>
<p>And as for higher income = higher SATs, please how much difference does that make? I took a few days of prep school and found it a total waste of time. Others may find it more useful but in the end, you're still the one taking the test. Also, I could also complain how asians and internationals have it bad and how unfair aa/legacy, etc is. To those who did get an advantage because of URM, etc, just acknowledge it and move on. We know it isn't the only reason you got in and that you're very qualified but do realize that out of 20k people, there are those who were probably just as qualified as you who didn't get in because they didn't have a hook.</p>
<p>Sorry if I offended anyone, I'm getting ticked at people acting superior just because they got in. Yes, maybe fortify was rude but that doesn't mean you have to be obnoxious to everyone else ok?</p>
<p>I got those scores without anything aside from familiarization (and studying a bit of material for the subject tests). You seemed to suggest that they look for potential when judging SAT scores. Thus, it seemed to me they thought I had none.</p>
<p>i have a question. did the people who had sunet ids reserved for them get in? just curious.</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ list]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: no
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 2200 (640, 770, 790) 2240 superscored (680, 770, 790
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800 math 2, 770 chem
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.88, 4.78
[<em>] Rank: no rank but under 4% for elc
[</em>] ACT: 35 (36 math, 35 science, 34 reading, 33 english)
[<em>] APs (including this year's): 10
[</em>] IBs (including this year's:
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: statistics ap, chinese ap, physics c ap,
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: i think maybe 10+ or even 20 + is what i heard...
[<em>] Other stats (Awards, etc.):
[/list][ b]Subjective:[ list]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: reserach center, science research, taekwondo, math club volunteering, boy scouts
[<em>] Job/Work Experience:
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): my medical condition, boy scouts
[<em>] Teacher Recs: not that great i believe
[</em>] Counselor Rec: should be great
[<em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): none
[</em>] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): N/A
[/list]Location/Person:[ list]
[<em>] State or Country: CA
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public, top 100
[<em>] Ethnicity: Taiwanese
[</em>] Gender: M
[<em>] Income Bracket:
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): N/A
[<em>] Strengths: lab experience, high ACt
[</em>] Weaknesses: lower GPA
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: not good enough GPA, many other people from my school applying, not "unique" enough.[/li][/list][ b]Other Factors:**
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Congratulations to everyone who got in, I know that many of us were totally qualified but they cna only take so much. Good job on trying your best.</p>
<p>let me start off by saying that those of you who have been rejected have AMAAAAAAAZING stats and im flabbergasted that stanford would reject such an outstanding/capable crowd. when i found out that my friend got accepted to columbia yesterday, i immediately started getting butterflies in my stomach and i was freaking out cuz i realized that the stanford results should be coming in any day now, but what the eff they came out on a friday night and totally ruined it! oh well.. i cried and moped around for about 10 minutes and decided to use this rejection as motivation to finish my other apps. :) but dont forget guys, its not the end of the world. :] just keep that in mind!</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: Yes
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 700 writing, 670 math, 580 CR, 9e (i know i know... they suck. i wish i would have prepared)
[<em>] SAT IIs: 780 korean (umm im fluent, so im guessing i just suck at taking tests?!)
580 Biology M and Math II. I was really sick that day and i skipped a whole bunch of questions. i didnt bother retaking them though cuz it wouldn't have been on time for app consideration. boohoo my scores are disgraceful compared to you guyss
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: W 4.56, UW 3.9
[<em>] Rank: 13/771
[</em>] ACT: 30 (all my test scores just suck aaa)
[<em>] APs (including this year's): Spanish 3&4, USH, English 3&4, CalcBC, Econ, Gov, Bio (i only took bio and got a 3.... fail.)
[</em>] IBs (including this year's): N/A
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: orchestra, honors physics, ap eng4, ap econ, ap calcbc
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: i think im the only one that did EA? i know of several other RD's though
[li] Other stats (Awards, etc.): Not too much, but Whos Who Among..... nominee, letter points in orchestra and academics, academic night scholar 4yrs</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app:
All-State Honor Orchestra<br>
New Global Citizens, President and Founder<br>
MHS Cares Club<br>
Math League
Orchestra Council, Treasurer and President<br>
Best Buddies, Treasurer
Walk Now For Autism<br>
Valley Teen Leadership<br>
Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure<br>
Key Club<br>
Recreational Tennis
European Club<br>
Student Council<br>
Phoenix Symphony Guild
Relay For Life<br>
MHS Orchestras<br>
Regional Honor Orchestra<br>
Catseye Photo Club<br>
Junior Varsity Girls Soccer
Yoga<br>
Metropolitan Youth Symphony
Solo & Ensemble Superior Rating
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Server at a gelato shop
Member Activities Director at Lifetime Fitness
Student Mentor (teaching violin to students of low-income families)
Private Lesson Teacher
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): i had my pastor, 3 teachers, and friends edit them and i spent a lot of time on them, so YES THEY WERE FCKIN GOOD
[</em>] Teacher Recs: great
[<em>] Counselor Rec: my counselor loves me to death cuz im so nice to her :)
[</em>] Hook: nothing!</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: arizona
[</em>] School Type: public, about 3300 students. every year we send a couple students to ivies.
[<em>] Ethnicity: asiannn. chinese <-- big nono!
[</em>] Gender: girlygirl
[<em>] Strengths: uber well-rounded. but who isn't?
[</em>] Weaknesses: TEST SCORESSS BLEHH. im asian? i applied for finaid?
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: umm im too typical?! i would say its mostly my test scores which were faaaaar below average. i have all a's in school but my test scores make me look dumb, which might be why..? i was honestly expecting a deferral at least</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: AT LEAST WE GOT PAST THE MOST STRESSFUL PART OF SENIOR YEAR :D</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* Fee Waiver Used?: No
* SAT I (by section): 760m 760cr 800w 8e
* SAT IIs: 800Phys 800MII 800 Spanish 740 Lit
* GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0uw, 4.57w
* Rank: pretty good
* ACT:
* APs (including this year's): 5 Euro, 5 Music Theory, 5 Physics E&M, 5 Physics Mechanics, 5 Spanish Lang, 5 Calc AB
* IBs (including this year's:
* Senior Yr Courseload: AP Bio, AP Calc BC, AP Chem, AP English
* Number of Apps from Your School: five or six
* Other stats (Awards, etc.): National Merit/Achievement Semi, the usual
</code></pre>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* ECs listed on app: Varsity Track and Cross Country Captain, Band, Community Service
* Job/Work Experience: Intern at Stanford
* Essays (subject and responses): I liked 'em, but maybe not as good as I thought
* Teacher Recs: god awful, I think this is what screwed me over
* Counselor Rec: thought it was good (never saw it)
* Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): none
* Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): Research at Stanford
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country: CA
* School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Very good public school
* Ethnicity: White
* Gender: Male
* Income Bracket: Middle
* Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):
* Strengths: GPA and test scores
* Weaknesses: god-awful recs, not enough passion?
* Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: rejected because of bad recs probably, and no demonstrated passion
</code></pre>
<p>Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: congrats to everyone, are other schools hopeless now?</p>
<p>Lol, I read through this and now am kind of wondering why I even think I have a chance at Stanford... bah. RD ftw.</p>
<p>@disgradius: Totally agree. We need to look at the whole picture. That being said, having hooks is not the ONLY way to get into these schools; it's worth remembering that as well.</p>
<p>@amciw: Not at all! I apologize if it appeared that way!</p>
<p>Okay, you just meant that lower SAT scores were evaluated in the context of the applicant's school and financial situation, then?</p>
<p>Yes, that is what I meant. With higher scores, there is no telling what went into them. But if a first-gen URM in a seedy public school area got an 1800 or even 1700, will they just throw them out? No; there is even a thread in this forum about that.</p>
<p>I'm just saying that Stanford, in particular from my experience with my counselor and the adcoms, seems to be even more aware of this than other top schools.</p>
<p>I see. So do you think my chances will be more favorable at Princeton and Yale, then?</p>
<p>Edit: For your reference...my</a> rejection post.</p>
<p>Oh I forgot to list my ECs. Suffice to say they aren't international level but they are AWESOME :).</p>
<p>[ size=+1][ color=red][ b]Decision:Rejected [ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT: 2330
[ *] SAT IIs: 800- math 2 760 Bio
[ *] GPA: 3.85/4.18
[ *] Rank: doestn rank
[ *] Other stats:
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: prob not too good
[ *] Teacher Recs: not sure
[ *] Counselor Rec: not sure
[ *] Hook (if any): Siemens Semifinliast, First Generation
[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country:NY
[ *] School Type:Public
[ *] Ethnicity:Asian
[ *] Gender:Male
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]
[ b]General Comments:[ /b] CONGRATS TO ACCEPTEES! Youve survived the Stanford slaughter. You are done, go celebrate yall. Good job. As for me, ill be looking forward to a spot hopefully at cornell or northwestern. I lvoed this forum, thanks for being so enteratining during my wwait. Oprah, esp. congrats.</p>
<p>Deferred </p>
<p>International</p>
<p>Come on, deferees! Let's get a good thread going in the deferred thread I started. :)</p>
<p>Baelor, I loved your explanation. Just another reason why I applied to Stanford.</p>