Cali Northstate is a brand new medical school in Sacramento. I am surprised that they started medical school, combined program and graduate program within one year. I am not sure it’s worth joining during first year into a combined program.
Sites to compare Medical Schools:
http://www.afuturemd.com/category/future-md/
http://medical-schools.startclass.com/
http://www.usnews.com/
According to ranking, hospital affiliation, student satisfaction and patient catchment/diversity (I compared few colleges)
PITT>CASE>HPME>ROC>BU=BROWN>PENN/JEFF>MIAMI>GW>UCONN>VCU>RPI/ALB
@PVNova Thanks!
Considering other general (program requirements / risks; e.g. Pitt GAP ongoing Req prior to med school would make me uncomfortable) and personal factors IMO
HPME (if you prefer 7 yrs) / Brown PLME (if you prefer 8 yr) >Case (PPSP)>ROC (REMS)…,
@IfnousWHO that’s a valid point. We need to consider pre-reqs prior to medical school too.
@IfnousWHO, if you as a selectively and highly competitive BS/MD applicant feel uncomfortable to Pitt GAP GPA3.75 requirement, will you be confidence to be a good physician?
First, I think you have a misconception as to what makes a great physician. There two are core factors are the “ART” and the “SCIENCE” of Medicine. You can can be a competent Dr mastering the science of medicine but to be a great Dr you must also master the art of medicine (which is why non science majors tipically make better Drs than science majors-- yes, PhD/MD perhaps being the exception) which means that to be a great Dr is more than perfect standardize test scores or GPA.
Second, no concerns on my end on where my focus is - public service!
PS: If your going to maintain a GPA >3.80 at the cost of learning the ART and UG experience then why do GAP in the first place? Go to ivy or Stanford pre-med. IMO.
You got LL from Brown, if they also offer you PLME, that’s perfect for you. By the way, I do not believe admitted Pitt GAP kids could not enjoy the ART talked by you while easily mataining the GPA requirement. Where those kids go after medical school is the significant factor to be considered by admitted BS/MD kids. By the way, do you know which kind of physician may substantially be affected by ObamaCare? You are a phenomenal kid, GL.
Yes, I got LL from Brown UG. PLME decisions comes on 3/31. Yes, all physicians will be affected by external factors such as politics and economy.
Thx
Keep it civil people! Do not fall into the trap of being horribly rude under the anonymity of the Internet! This a conversation/ thread with people with similar goals but we can have differing opinions without being disparaging. An important skill for life - and even more so for doctors.
@what???!!
Not sure if you and I are reading the same posts. There is no hostility (intended or perceived) between j2h239 and I. In fact, we agree on most points and are just sharing different viewpoints on the subject matter (high BSMD UG requirements) which is somewhat subjective for the benefit of all.
Chill!
Info for @want2bedoc
@dblazer : you maybe right about U Miami for sure and may know most of this if you are a TX resident or have researched about or have been working at these schools. But, for the benefit of the future candidates/ families here is some more detailed info.
Besides the fact that TX med schools are all very good- inexpensive, preference for instate and competitive at both med school and job market level, (making practice licensing competitive) there are quiet a few down sides to the specific schools.
UH-3/4 program feeds some BS/ MD students into McGovern and some to UTMB. UH will not stand too strong compared to U Miami as an UG school as of now. I find it ironic saying this. But, it is the fact. The current Chancellor has brought about phenomenal changes (including starting the 3/4 program). Her own children were a part of the U Miami’s BS/ MD program, further instigating her to start one such at UH. Since UH became a tier one institute in 2011 they have been working their way up slowly and may reach the level of other tier one institutes in TX state like UT-Austin or A&M, but it will be a while before that happens. We believe they will get there with a dynamic administration like the present one. Off course being housed in Houston- the energy capital makes it a lot more attractive… yet the growth is not as fast as expected.
McGovern is an average medical school but UTMB is definitely a very good med school with great faculty and staff. But, post hurricane Ike, it has not recovered completely. Research and hospital staff funding has been hit hard and money is also channelled towards rebuilding the institution. The GI and Peds department are downsized and scattered, I assume other departments maybe the same still. The benefit is that their satellite clinics and branches which moved to the suburbs of Houston have picked up better than the main campus in Galveston. The Shriners and John Sealy hospital buildings have been able to re-accommodate most but not all patients/ units completely as yet. Research is also slowly limping back but, it will be a while before it fully recovers as the construction process still continues. Off course, the research at the Center for Biodefense and Infectious diseases still stays as one of the only of its kind and the best.
With UTSA: the school is not a tier 1 UG school and neither is UTHSC- SA med school ranked very high (UT health Science Center- San Antonio). I am positive they are ranked below VCU for residency training, especially more recently with MCV taking over in various areas like Cardio and Nephro and moving up in the ranks (within top 30-40 I guess, although I’m not too sure). However, UTHSC is an inexpensive school with good research (especially as one of sponsors for TX state science fair) and generous scholarships. Obviously, like all BS/ MD programs their FAME students are top notch, but definitely not their UGs. They have a great campus and are very well located. UTHSC’s residency programs are not ranked above VCU even in the recent report released:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/virginia-commonwealth-university-04121
As much as I would love to be optimistic about UTSA being better than VCU/ MCV they are still not equal yet.
If you really want top tier institutes in TX with good research- Rice, Baylor, UT-Austin, A&M and UH in order of preference for most. We all know that Rice-Baylor seems miles away for most applicants. Good luck to those awaiting their results.
So, for those who are out of state looking at TX schools- they are still relatively inexpensive. But, choose wisely based on what you want- whether it is great education, less competition, inexpensive, good research, access to home, better residency programs, in state preference or other more personal reasons. I think it is quiet subjective when people rank the BS/MD programs. So, students look at the schools with a critical eye and a big thinking hat on.
@IfnousWHO, there are mandatory courses and they expect you to maintain the required GPA like any other program.
You are not forced to major in any of the sciences - by virtue of the mandatory courses you will minor in Chemistry. But, you can choose to major in the arts or any of the sciences.
Noted.
The ART of medicine I was referring to was mastery of skill to deal with people. The human/service/volunteerism side not the technical side (science).
@IfnousWHO, got it. As in any combined program, it is all up to the individual to take sometime out of their schedule to do what they are passionate about - including the list of compassionate things you mention. The Pitt GAP requirements are not that hard; it all depends on the individual’s commitment and how they want to live their life.
UMKC 6 yr BA/MD acceptances are out. I am in. Received email 10 mins ago. I am OOS.
Rejection received from Villanova/Drexel (letter in the mail - just got it)
@dudefromnowhere you already received drexel letters? when did you interview?
Thank you all for providing useful information on Texas medical schools.