<p>Hmmm. Well KIDS, if it was a fair and legal election, then Obama it shall be. </p>
<p>At nearly every election I am amazed by those that DON'T vote, yet the whine about who's doing what in the White House. So many people do not even comprehend the importance of voting.</p>
<p>Let me tell you of a time, not long ago actually as it is quite recent, when folks in places like Thailand can't vote. And when they can, you have a choice between A & B. If you vote for A, you get to go home to your family. If you vote for B, you get a stock of an AK-47 to the base of your skull, and if that doesn't kill you the half of a clip they dump into your now-disabled body, DOES. Only thing is, you knew who was running but you didn't know who to vote for to keep from getting killed.</p>
<p>People simply do not understand the value of a fair and free election like what we have. Perhaps the older members here know what I'm talking about.</p>
<p>Exactly sainclaire, he ran in the primaries as a liberal alternative to Clinton with his tax fairness, bad Iraq, no FISA, bad surge, free trade bad, only to capitulate on many of these issues and is now the candidate of the tax cuts. Hence, why I said, he won as a centrist, not, he will rule as the centrist he's never been.</p>
<p>I'm curious as to whether Black Democratic support will change now. It's hovered at something like...90% or so the past few elections, hasn't it?</p>
<p>I thought it was funny how much last night paralleled the redone Return of the Jedi - people all over the universe celebrating the young rebel allliance's defeat of the galactic empire. But, you all are looking at this too narrowly. </p>
<p>Obama represents the end of an epoch that began the last time a dark energy rose to power and then collapsed under the weight of its own greed - the 1950s. Just as the dark days of the 1950s were critical to the 1960s, so too was Bush critical to our advancement as a civilization by exposing that lower consciousness.</p>
<p>From that last time came JFK, who laid a groundwork for the cultural revolution of the 1960s. Obama is doing the same. He represents the end of an epoch that was first represented by MLK. It is a a very superficial but important epoch of basic human dignity. But, in the end, Obama's ideas are very conventional.</p>
<p>The next epoch, however, will get beyond the superficial and spur a revolution of ideas. Obama's laying the groundwork for that, and there is no doubt he will be a wise and judicious leader because there is a larger cosmic purpose to his presidency, just as there was a necessity for Bush's presidency to be troubling.</p>
<p>I am an atheist, but I love this picture because it sums up what is wrong with statements like the post above mine. Obama is not going to be the savior of american politics.</p>
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<p>You're reading your own bias into what I wrote and reading WAY to far into my silly comparison between the shots at the end of Return of the Jedi and the shots when it was announced he won. </p>
<p>Nobody said he's a messiah except Sean Hannity and perhaps O'Reilley. He's a strong political leader who's come along at a time when one is needed. People around the world stayed up to watch our election or woke early because the United States remains the only nation founded on a political philosophy to nurture human advancment toward "a more fuller union". He demonstrates for the world, after 8 years of leadership guilty of criminal treason, that the United States can rise again as the moral beacon in the world seeking diplomacy over war and unity over division. He just represents politically what a surging young culture is living everyday.</p>
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<p>right... as proven by his (not even) single term in the senate in which he was a partisan liberal democrat :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Again, he is far from the ideal that we need right now and not at all deserving of the super-star status that he has achieved from his kool-aid drinking supporters (and yes, I agree this is not all of them)</p>
<p>We were given exactly who we needed as president. Somebody who has been right every time for 30+ years and has never even blemished. But the American population as usually guarantees to remain DUMB.</p>
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<p>I appreciate this concern, and it's a legitimate one. All I can say is this - I have a sixth sense about people. I can sense, without any proof, the type of person one is. Even if I don't know why, I learn later why I was repelled or drawn to someone. I'm never wrong. </p>
<p>I could have told you in 2000 that Bush would be a disaster. I could have told you in 2004 that John Edwards can't be trusted, even though I had no reason to know why. I can tell you today that Obama will run a very effective government, cut your taxes, or at the most raise them to the booming 90s level. Let's hope he keeps his word.</p>
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<p>...that's your opinion that he was right. To accuse people of being DUMB for disagreeing with your opinion is incredibly insulting. After 8 years of the least intelligent and capable president, leading us to be mocked and ridiculed by the world, I don't understand how you can say we "remained DUMB". We altered our course and a vast majority of the world agrees with the decision.</p>
<p>If you want to blame someone, blame McCain for flip-flopping, turning the VP selection into a political stunt, and, like Kerry in '04, never defining a vision. If he'd had stuck to who he is and tried to stay centrist, it would have been mcuh closer.</p>
<p>I don't know. Obama is leading this country to destruction, and honestly.. that's what it deserves. Everyone is so caught up in how young he is, how much of a change he is. Do the young people truly think that he's realistic? I don't know about you guys, but socialism is.. not good. Let's all stop working, Obama will take care of our gas prices and mortgage payments. (Yay allusions!)</p>
<p>obama hasn't even started running his term yet, so it's still Bush that's "leading this country to destruction". and nobody likes socialism, cold war much?</p>
<p>some of us just want a change, and if it all goes to hell im sure we can rectify it in 4 years, or even sooner... this is actually what we're doing now. we are reacting to how we percieve bush. this is the way government is supposed to work. you don't like it, you change it.</p>
<p>and i like how ppl say something to the effect of the "young people", because everyone always tell us we don't vote. well it looks we did this time :)</p>
<p>Congrats Obama. Unfortunately can't help but believe that tons of people voted for Obama simply because he is black, which should not be the case. Still, he made history so congrats to him.</p>
<p>^ wait cutieflutie, are you referring to my use of the word "disillusionment"? I hope not. Otherwise, I severely fear for the quality of your education. Disillusionment is the perfect word to describe what's about to happen in America. Get ready for it.</p>
<p>and about "young people." I'm 18. I voted. I did not vote for Obama. hahaha. The only reason people like Obama in my experience) is the fact that he is so different from George Bush, for better or worse. People say he's a great speaker, and they're wrong. He's just good COMPARED TO George Bush. Believe me, I was 15th nationally last year in Oratory, and I've seen at least 20 other students across the country who can speak more eloquently than he can. Hell, I've entered Extemporaneous Speaking (7 minute speech with very limited preparation, basically off the top of your head) and Student Congress, and seen TONS of better impromptu debaters than Obama. Keep sipping the Kool-Aid, America. You only think he's the Messiah because you've never seen a real politician (which is why I don't claim that McCain was necessarily better; they're both scum).</p>
