One Trick Pony?

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<p>the funny thing is EAD applied EA to Yale, got deferred and is now applying to Wharton. If he actually wanted to go to business school, he would've applied ED to Wharton. A prestige whore as you guys call it!</p>

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<p>^That's quite possible the most ****ed up logical reasoning I have witnessed in my life. So every student interested in business should apply to Wharton ED sristi?? Wharton is one of the MANY schools I am considering attending and I like to keep my options open. Sorry if that makes me a "prestige whore" LOL.</p>

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<p>ok ead: sorry i don't know how to "quote"</p>

<p>but when you say "First of all, it's rather presumptious to say ''I think I would have gotten into HYPS'' when those schools are tossups even for the most qualified applicants in the country. Secondly, Penn is a "one trick pony" since it's basically known worldwide primarily for its Wharton School of Business and not for its College of Arts and Sciences, not to say that CAS isn't good by any means. It's just that the disparity is so large and the name Penn has very little international name recognition while Wharton does from San Fransisco to Shanghai."</p>

<p>^^^^I think it's presumptious to call me presumptious. I said originally that if you have any reason to doubt my HYPS confidence, you can ask me. (Through PM though if you care enough to hear me brag.) Also, I'd hope as a Wharton applicant you'd recognize that the One Trick Pony thing is absurd. Penn is not 7th/ technically 5th..? in USNWR for nothing. Wharton cannot do that alone. "The disparity between CAS and Wharton is soooooo large" < Oh give me a break. SOO large?? The type of applicants applying to CAS are incredible. Especially this year. Read the article. Penn is on the rise, and the resources it offers are amazing. As you said in agreement with me, from Penn (Penn Cas no less!?) I can go anywhere I want. Yea. It is so far below all others! I am settling! I think you're just doing this to annoy me at this point because you can't actually even half this bs you're spewing out...</p>

<p>"I don't really see how your leater purses references are relevant considering that Penn CAS costs just as much to attend as HYPS if you are out of state, which you seemingly are." </p>

<p>^^^This comment comes from a lack of understanding of purses. Balenciaga is no cheap purse my friend. Just less well known. That was the only comparison between them I was making. And it is very apt. I like the purse I like, because of how it looks, not because of the designer. Not because of who'll recognize it. --And in any event, the people who matter will!! </p>

<p>"So if you truly feel that you're qualified to attend HYPS, then you wouldn't have applied ED to Penn CAS if only just to keep your options open. Don't give me that ******** about the "right feel" since it's not like you took a summer program there or had relatives attend it and fell in love with the environment or something, you just basically went on a tour and heard that it was the best party ivy, so you applied ED(not to say that wasn't your only reason lol)."</p>

<p>^^^^^ Of what relevance is this? Your logic only stands if I hadn't already established that I liked Penn better than every other school out there. The Daily Pennsylvanian?? It is a NASTYYY collegiate newspaper. Look up its rep. Yes, I liked the social ivy aspect. I loved Philadelphia. I loved the campus. I loved the people I met. Penn is just the school for me. It's not that I didn't feel I was qualified for HYPS, and I, again, am fully willing to substantiate that claim, but I didn't want to go to them. Harvard is in my back yard. I've worked there. It wasn't so exciting. I got the thrill of having a harvard e-mail address. Didn't make me feel too special. There's no Harvard allure for me. Moving on. Yale? It's called New Haven. I've visted there 45678 times, 4 of which have been on debate trips where I'm there for a whole weekend.. and I wasn't a huge fan of the area or the people I met. Princeton, same deal. Eating houses..? <strong><em>. I sat in on a class and everyone looked bored as *</em></strong>. Stanford... mehn. Cali seemed too far, and I can admit this is the only school I regret never having gotten to known better/gotten the chance to apply to. But really, what's the point of keeping options open that I don't really want? When I could secure what I DID want? I wanted Pennpennpenn. And it was mutual!! Yay!</p>

<p>Otherwise, I mean... my only problem with you is that you throw around this language like "far superior" and "huge disparity" -- and it's like dude. In the top 10 schools... not much difference. Certainly not to the extent you're championing. Yes, Penn CAS is, I agree, not as prestigious-- but what is prestige?? I don't think quality can be so easily assessed as P > H > Y > Penn. It's a matter of what you want, and what's right for you. If I wasn't fully obsessed Penn I wouldn't have spent the time to write this. Anyway, it's 7 oclock on a Friday night and I'm going to go get dinner and hopefully I won't remember the rest of my evening. << (Example 4567.b why I want to be at the social ivy) :)</p>

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<p>EAD: Applying early to Yale meant that it was your #1 choice for college. What did you apply to Yale for? Business? I doubt it. Even if you did apply for business, I wonder why you did so in the first place. Reading your posts it seems to me all you care about is prestige. So it doesn't make much sense to me that a person interested in pursuing a career in business with excellent stats number wise would rather apply to school with a so-so business department first.
So, the answer to the question you asked is yes. A person with good stats should apply to Wharton ED if they are truly interested in business.
And most kids who want to keep their options open usually apply to CAS as an undecided major so that they can chose later what they want to do. They usually don't apply to a trade school!
Your logic seems to be the most (insert curse word) logic I have heard. </p>

<p>jenny--this is the point EAD is trying to make. You are stupid for getting accepted into Penn CAS. Students who don't get accepted (and don't want to even try to get accepted) into HYPS have IQ scores similar to Forest Gump. I am probably stupider because I only got into engineering. </p>

<p>I seriously hope EAD gets into Yale, Harvard, Wharton, Princeton etc. so that he can be more of a obnoxious fool.</p>

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<p>christ i can't remember the last time i saw such stupidity. Penn's CAS is awesome and the best way to see that is to go to the other schools and talk to their own students. You'll be surprised how underwhelmed you are by the average Harvard student or Yalie. I've seen them all and the only students who have truly impressed me are those from UChicago.</p>

<p>I am double-legacy at stanford with near-perfect test scores, great ECs, and the ability to write superb college app essays. Getting into stanford would not have been a challenge for me. I picked Penn because it's a better fit for me.</p>

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Wow! Are you really that delusional? Just because I'm interested in pursuing a career in business, that doesn't mean I should apply ED to Wharton. HYPS may not have undergraduate business schools but the advanatage one does get from attending those schools is the ability to pursue a broad, liberal education before taking a more specialized approach once in graduate school and focusing solely on one area of study. That means that I can get an undergraduate degree at HYPS or any other school and then still get an MBA at Wharton in graduate school, thus still allowing me to pursue a career in business.</p>

<p>I didn't create a college list by looking just at the strength of a school's business departments. That's a ridiculous idea to even propose. For me, the overall atmosphere, campus layout academic course offerings, housing, social opportunities, prestige, etc. are far more important factors to consider as an undergraduatel. HYPS and many other schools set me up for careers in other areas besides business if I suddenly experienced a change of heart while Wharton would not. I can take interesting classes in fields ranging from drama to psychology at Yale while at Wharton, I would have less of an opportunity to do so since I would be trying to fulfill so many BSE degree requirements.</p>

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No. You're wrong on so many levels. I guess that means if you were truly interested in engineering, then you would apply to Carnegie Mellon or MIT EA and not ******* Penn SEAS. Most people who are interested in business receive a normal undergraduate at the school of their choice, for reasons unrelated to their career aspirations, and later puruse an MBA at a graduate business school, just like with any other profession. Very few people, regardless of how strongly they feel about their interests, enroll in a "trade school" right out of high school. </p>

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No, I just thought it was a little odd that Jenny thinks that she could have probably been admitted to HYPS but she chose not to even give herself the chance to apply to those colleges by applying ED to Penn CAS. But she definitely loves Penn and can't see herself being anywhere else, so I stand corrected.</p>

<p>You're not stupider for getting into Penn SEAS, you're stupider for making sweeping generalizations and ignorant comments.</p>

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I would also like to report that Johnny was also offered the Secretary-General position at the United Nations upon the request of then Kofi Annan himself but good ol' Johnny respectfully declined because he felt that an assistant position in Penn's undergraduate admissions department would be a better fit for him.;)</p>

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<p>EAD--Penn was my first choice because penn has a good bioengineering program. MIT has a better bioengineering program but carnegie mellon doesn't. Location was also important to me. I needed something close to New York so that I could visit my family every weekend. So MIT was never a choice. John Hopkins is too cut throat and I don't like the environment. So here was my list of schools:
Penn
Stony Brook
Columbia
Cornell
Rochester
As you can see my list was not dictated by prestige of the universities. I honestly believe I would've had a pretty good shot Princeton or Yale if I applied. Why? Ask me and I will PM you. Stats (GPA and SAT scores) are not the only things driving admissions. But location and the program was more important to me. So I did apply to the top program that fit my needs. </p>

<p>I am not the only one making generalizations. You were the one making generalizations in the first placing by suggesting that Wharton is the only thing Penn is good for. So how do you feel when we make generalizations about you!!</p>

<p>And one more thing, people like you (dulce, anyone?) are the ones who think that they are better than everyone else and make the boards into a place to fight in. I think you are stupid to assume that posting a thread like this in the Penn forum would get anything but angry responses and responses attacking you. I know you didn't post the thread but you were one of the few who argued on behalf of the OP.</p>

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<p>jennyanne89, your stats were weak. It was a fluke that you even got into penn CAS early.</p>

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the funny thing is EAD applied EA to Yale, got deferred and is now applying to Wharton. If he actually wanted to go to business school, he would've applied ED to Wharton. A prestige whore as you guys call it!

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By that definition everyone applying RD to wharton is a prestige whore.</p>

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<p>Dionysus that's a very unfair thing to say. You can't honestly think that being published (with the glorrrriouss harvard no less) and nationally ranked in everything I do means it was a fluke I got into Penn. That's kind of the tried and true formula to get into any top 10 school. Then not even consideringgg I'm either president or vice president of every EC I'm in and either 2nd or 3rd in my class?? Oh wait, you're getting all high and mighty over my mere 2190 on the SATs. Personally, I don't think that it hurts too much, as I got an 800 in verbal and a 680 in math, --and obviously I'm not retarded at math considering I have national awards for my astrophysics research. Furthermore it's moronic to say my "stats are low" just going by SAT scores-- they're simply what gets your foot in the door for most of these schools anyway.</p>

<p>Your idiocy aside, the whole point is that Penn CAS isn't this one trick pony. I'm really passionate about going there, and I hate when people assume I would've chosen one of the 6 schools ranked above it were I given the chance. I think most other ED applicants feel the same.</p>

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<p>Sristi, could you explain the part about being stupid for getting into Penn CAS? I don't get that...</p>

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<p>w.t.f is wrong with u ppl...jesus christ...all these stats and s.h.t.eee...christ i thought all that was left behind...december 14th...why da hell are ya still talkin about it...god...either u gt accepted...f.u.k.ING congratulations...if u gt rejected...SRY...and if u gt defered....more srys...but dont soak around here talkin about what is not important...such as STATS at this point....and WHAT SCHOOLS U COULD HAVE OR WOULD HAVE APPLIED TOO...or any other sugar.honey.ice.teaee dat will definetly not make u a better person....this is what they think of dis god forsaken forum on penns student talk:</p>

<p>Question: "I have a perfect GPA, 4500000 extracurriculars, perfect SAT Is, and perfect SAT IIs, but I got a 4 on my AP Bio Exam... What are my chances at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, UChicago, WUSL, Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, Rice, Emory, MIT, NYU, Carnegie Mellon, UVA, and my safety... Penn State?" </p>

<p>Answer: "Hmm... that 4's gonna hurt. You're going to have to go all out on the essay to make up for it, but you might have a chance at Penn Sate. I'd apply to more safeties though if I were you." </p>

<p>and i perfectly agree....would we all shut the *** up about these obnoxious questions and talk about ****eee dat matters</p>

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<p>Place he said that tongue in cheek/sarcastically.</p>

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<p>I am actually a "she" jenny. Dionysis, if you read any of the posts EAD made before you would actually understand what I was talking about.
Suggesting that Wharton is the only good school in Penn is pure stupidity and the person who makes the presumption will not come off as a very humble person.</p>

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<p>oops sorry sristi :(</p>

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<p>This thread is funny lol.</p>

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<p>wow you have to be kidding me. this thread is going to get you all nowhere</p>

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<p>does posting on cc actually do anything ever? and thinking about it... the whole point of this site is kind of lost to me now that i'm actually IN college. lol ok, so it's been fun kids!! i'll probably awkwardly run into a few of you at penn in 675t6y7 months :):)</p>

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<p>its 8 months and 15 Jennyanne. Gosh, learn how to count.</p>

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<p>Evilasiandictator (of which there are many), it makes absolutely no sense that you would prefer a liberal arts education at Harvard or Yale and then switch to a business-oriented education once you got to Penn by enrolling in Wharton.</p>

<p>The same liberal arts curriculum is available here.</p>

<p>Do enlighten me otherwise, but i suspect it is because for all the lofty rhetoric to the contrary you are in fact a prestige whore.</p>

<p>Good lord am I good at dismantling people. I rule. Somebody give me a medal.</p>