<p>I think you need like a 5 or something on the Calc BC exam for them to "let you" enroll into Math 11. But you can really just enroll into the class if you want to - nobody is going to stop you.</p>
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BTW, almost exactly 1/3 of the class is placed into a freshman seminar in the fall term. Another 1/3 will have Writing 5 in the fall and their seminar in the winter. Another 1/3 will have writing 5 in the winter and their seminar in the spring.
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<p>I do not think it is this evenly distributed as you forgot to include students (~10%) who end up taking writing 2/3</p>
<p>There is definitely a significant portion of the class at D and at every ivy that has low scores. Athletes as a group, legacies and those that bring diversity are allowed to have considerably lower scores. This means that kids who do not fall into one of those groups (40% are in groups that may score lower) are very likely to have above median scores.</p>
<p>To bring this back to only 9% deferred -does this mean deferred students will have a higher chance of admittance, as there are fewer?</p>
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<p>I guess not...don't forget they have the record RD applicants this year</p>
<p>Don't forget, Dartmouth takes a smaller percentage of the class ED than most. It's easy to imagine there are lots of kids they would have liked to have taken that didn't fit into the number they stick to ED.</p>
<p>So with the new strategy of not deferring most, it would make sense to see a higher percentage of the deferred get in. The only confusing fact is that in the deferral letter they warn few traditionally get in. Only time will tell.</p>
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<p>yeah nice point</p>
<p>usually they accept the same percentage of deferrals that they do RD applicants. one would assume that would change this year with the decrease from a 33% deferral rate last year to 9% this year (meaning more deferrals would ultimately be accepted) but now that there are so many more apps, it'll probably hold around average (10-12% of deferrals ultimately accepted).</p>
<p>My post from yesterday which listed SAT I math & CR scores for elite colleges & universities should have noted that the scores were for the 25th percentile of matriculated students. I probably should have included the 75th percentile numbers as well, but I tend to focus on those stats listed in my earlier post. Sorry for any confusion that I may have caused.</p>
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<p>That would make much more sense, ColdWind. Thanks for clarifying. </p>
<p>And shooting down my hopes...</p>
<p>Though it feels nice to be one of the (I suppose top, or best fit, or whatever) 30-odd percent of applicants as opposed to 60-odd percent, I'm not holding out hope for Dartmouth at all. I guess I'll wear my deferral as a badge of honor now, haha. And my pending rejection.</p>
<p>Sybbie, you're right that i forgot about the writing 2-3 track, but those people take it the freshman seminar in the spring. This just means that there are less writing 5 people in the winter term who take the seminar in the spring too.</p>
<p>All I do know is that each term has the same number of offerings. Also, it said in the freshman guide or something that 1/3 of the students are exempt. They do that staggered strategy to prevent putting a strain on the freshman seminar profs.</p>
<p>As far as I know, students who submitted only ACT scores (and therefore no SAT Critical Reading score) are ineligible for the Writing 5 exemption, no matter how high their ACT English score is. So the 33% of students who take their seminars in fall term are actually more like in the top 35~40% in Critical Reading scores. (Not exactly encouraging, I know. Sorry.) I'm not sure what percentage of students submit only ACT scores.</p>
<p>SAT subject test scores, AP scores, pre-matriculation college credits, and high school grades have no effect on your Writing 5 exemption.</p>