<p>exilio... get over yourself. The fact is that we all have different personal agendas and standards. If your personal standard in school is higher then mine, it might make me a pathetic loser in your eyes but in my eyes, I just have more important things to do. Fact is, at my school an 89.49 is the same as a 112. On the piece of paper that matters, and A is an A and doing more that what is required in courses that really mean nothing is just taking away form things that really do matter. Ask why I don't study for my AP Euro test... its because I'm out counseling depressed, overweight preteens(yes, I am a motivational speaker in a group that gives presentations in middle schools) or being the assistant coach of the handicapped youth baseball team. </p>
<p>So, does this make me a slacker? Yes, I think it does. Do I regret that I am able to make decisions and decide what is important and what is not? No, most definitely not.</p>
<p>... don't take this as a personal attack as it is not.</p>
<p>i love my ap us class. the teacher runs it like a college course, so he doesn't take attendance, and we never get any homework. we just get tests on the reading, so i do really well because its always stupid things like homework or notes that bring my grade down. just to conclude that drama earlier: i think we all realize that we are not really "slackers" Id say we borrow some thing from the overachievers (like obviously caring about our future and where we go to school) and soem from the slackers (while we do work, we don't work as hard as we can, but I definitely want to improve that in college, i just tihnk in highschool you really need to start off on that road or else its hard to get on it).</p>
<p>I totally agree with you anovice. That is a more eloquent way of saying what I was trying to convey. I think our "slacking" is all about prioritizing. Since I spend less time on schoolwork, I am able to pursue things I am more passionate about like video, photography, and also watching movies/tv (not in a mindless way, I really think about them...I'm really itnerested in advertising)</p>
<p>I'm no overachiever...I know my abilities and use them to get semi good grades...4.05w, 3.83 uw...but i know that i could be doing better. you can ALWAYS be doing better. there's just a line that should be drawn. People who join every club in the world, or sweat ass over being in the top 2% instead of 1% are insane...As long as you maintain a good record, get involved somewhat, and keep a positive attitude, youll go to a solid school. these "slackers" are not really slackers...they're just smart people who prefer to take pride in their ability but not utilize it to the point of vomiting. And we 'slackers' have many more stories to tell and are much more laid back people...which is healthier in the long run ;)</p>
<p>Anovice...when did I say any of the things you mentioned? Pathetic loser? Your words not mine.</p>
<p>When did I ever say I was an over achiever? I hold myself to a high standard in everything I do, not just academics.</p>
<p>The purpose of my post was not to say slackers suck, but to refute and contrast the gross generalizations of what you all have deemed "over-achievers".</p>
<p>If you actually had taken the time to read my posts you would have seen I talked about balance is more important than anything. I try to apply that philosophy to my life.</p>
<p>I am a xfer student with all A's. I also am a head coach for a middle school basketball team. I jog, bike and compete in adventure races. I love video games and surfing the web. I also surf with a real surfboard. I have a beautiful girl by my side as well.</p>
<p>You see, you and david are the ones making generalizations..and that was all i wanted to point out. You refer to yourself as slackers so as to soften the blow of mediocre results. Results achieved not due to aptitude, but attitude.</p>
<p>Someone who is balanced does not make excuses for their poor results under the guise of proclaiming that only over-achievers do well in academics and nothing else. You all want to absolve yourselves of personal responsibility because you aren't willing to put in the time or the effort to get the grades over-achievers do. That won't wash with me.</p>
<p>Do I take your posting as a personal attack? Not really. I consider the source of the message.</p>
<p>You self-described slackers opened yourself up to attack when your spouted off about over-achievers. Any guff you get is deserved. But just like the absolution you seek from the personal responsibility of getting top notch grades, you try to hide from the remarks made in this thread.</p>
<p>First of all, any sane person would realize that most people here get way above average grades. Biler said it very well. I thought you said you weren't going to post on here anymore? I know that I, and I think most others here, would appreciate it if you did that.</p>
<p>People here are just crazy. We all get good grades. We're all at pretty much the same intelligence level here...i think most of us are really sick of people who just do everything...lead pointless, aimless clubs, do stupid things just to look good on apps...its annoying. on top of that, they make everyone else look a whole lot worse, even though most of them aren't of any better character.</p>
<p>I really wish EC's were of a lesser importance. So what if I haven't found anything I'm passionate about yet? I'm 16 years old, and I don't have to know exactly what I'm doing yet.</p>
<p>exactly how i feel...i have to pitch the fact that ive played piano for 9 years, accomplished some things, and feel PASSIONATE about it...i like it, a lot, but im 16...well now 17 haha, but how am i supposed to know?</p>
<p>Thank you biler, you're right. The thing that frustrates me is I see myself as someone with a lot of intellectual curiosity, and I cannot bring myself to do anything just because it looks good on an application. It is a matter of morals I guess, but I just refuse to do something that I don't genuinely care about. It is unfortunate because I have the same goals with college and careers as many people, but I am worried that the people who sort of suspend their morals and do whatever they need to do to look good for colleges will get ahead of me, or at least get into a college that might be perfect for me, but they get in because they just did everything. Anyone have similar worries?</p>
<p>I am a xfer student with all A's. I also am a head coach for a middle school basketball team. I jog, bike and compete in adventure races. I love video games and surfing the web. I also surf with a real surfboard. I have a beautiful girl by my side as well.</p>
<p>oh, what a charmed life you lead! oh, you are right good sir, I must quit my lazy ways! Oh, perhaps if I just force myself to be active in a community I despise, to fraternize with my peers in friendly physical competition, force myself to raise my...3.75 gpa to a 4.0 in the two remaining trimesters of my high school life - why I'll be a valedictorian, the star of my school, admired by administration and peers for life! and then perhaps I'll have a handsome boy by my side as well! oh, I cannot wait to be balanced!!!</p>
<p>as for ec's I've found a few I really enjoy, but one I'm really into (model un) isn't really time consuming at all thanks to a cheap ass asb, and the rest I got tired of quick. and why do most ec's involve working with other people? I'm a loner. find me something I can do without having teamwork and camaraderie and I'll be a happy lass.</p>
<p>haha i agree. i hate people. well, some people. and im in no way depressed or gothic...im a conservative preppy person...i get along with others, i just dont like them...lol</p>
<p>but i agree, alot of EC require a ton of contact with people i hate, in excessive amounts. community service for a community that never did anything for me...ugh, gag me. </p>
<p>hence i head to individual pursuits...track (except for relays, shame) and piano, along with some work...eh i hope ill be ok</p>
<p>why i want to be an accountant or pathologist</p>
<p>cantstandmenow-hilarious post. I know how both you and biler feel about the individiualism/EC thing. I really don't think the ECs matter too much unless you are doing something incredible. Like I'm the president of the film club, and that takes up a good hour or so a week, I mean I think colleges realize its easy enough to get a leadership position in some of these not-so-serious clubs etc. I'm a track runner too, I love it, but I like cross country better. And the hating people, but not seeming like a brooding goth, I'm totally the same way.</p>
<p>man, i leave my thread for a couple days and exilio comes in and takes over... what's with this guy tryin to rain on my parade, take your self-absorbed ass somewhere else. go tell everyone else about your accomplishments and grades, because frankly, i don't give a damn. by the way i love that post biler333, i dont know if you were being sarcastic or not but i'm with you on the "not liking most people" thing :) </p>
<p>either way, i've read all i've missed and most of it's pretty funny. how about a new direction though, maybe to steer clear of these argumentative posts. i'd like to know what some of you guys want to do when you get in the real world; ie. profession, hobbies, ambitions, etc. somethin tells me a few of us may be in the same boat, just a though...</p>
<p>"talk amongst yourselves, i'll give you yet another topic, rhode island is neither a road, nor an island, discuss."
Linda Richmond, Coffee Talk, [mike myers], Saturday Night Live, the glorious 90's.</p>
<p>Well...i've always had a passion for aeronautics . I've been fascinated with flight, space, etc ever since i was a kid. So maybe something in that field, hopefully.</p>
<p>Alright I'd say this thread is just about beat. I'd say we can put it to rest, since it's had a pretty enduring run for a couple weeks. it was nice conversing with the rest of you that have posted on here, maybe i'll see you around the boards somewhere else. i'm out.</p>