<p>I think Cornell is definitely underrated. It doesnt get the respect it truly deserves from many individuals. It continuously prepares students for careers in medicine and engineering. Sure it is an extremely difficult school, but that is why the students are incredibly knowledgeable in their field.</p>
<p>Thing is, Cornell is VERY well respected. It is virtually known by EVERYONE (well relatively everyone) on the international front and it has elitist appeal even with some of its state supported schools. Make no doubt about it...CORNELL IS AMAZING. However, I just think people take its international prestige WAY too far sometimes, that's all.</p>
<p>In respect to Cornell, in the corporate world, it's HIGHLY RESPECTED domestically and internationally. It's more respected than 3 of the schools ranked in the top 10 on US news. As far as CC, Cornell is underrated. This generally has to do with it's "acceptance rate" compared to other schools of its caliber. I don't understand why that should matter, but here it does. Academically, Cornell has one of the toughest student bodies. Cornell doesn't have much grade inflation; hence, an "A" at Cornell means a lot.</p>
<p>However, Cornell isn't the only school underrated on CC. The University of Chicago is as well. This has a lot to do with the University of Chicago's "acceptance rate." However, acceptance rate does not equal prestige, quality, and name-recognition. The University of Chicago has huge respect internationally and domestically, and it has superb academics and quality, comparable to the ivies, stanford, etc.</p>
<p>Sure thing. Yeah, on CC...Cornell IS underrated. However, which 3 schools are you referring to? I seriously don't see it being MORE respected domestically than any school in the top 10 right now. Maybe equal, but not more.</p>
<p>Harvard...naw
Princeton..naw
Yale...naw
Upenn...I don't know.
Duke...equally respected? However, Duke has better grad placement and that's all I really care about when it comes to that.
Stanford...wow naw
MIT...naw
CIT...hmmm..yeah CIT needs to do a better job getting its name out there
Dartmouth..close but naw
Columbia..naw</p>
<p>Again, this is one CCers opinion</p>
<p>However doesn't Cornell=Upenn=Duke= Dartmouth on the peer eval on usnews? Sounds about right.</p>
<p>Well, from the 11-15 rankings on US News, how would you guys rank these places.</p>
<p>Northwestern
U of Chicago
Cornell
JHU
Brown
WUSTL</p>
<p>In terms of domestic and international prestige/name recognition, Cornell is indeed more respected than the University of Pennsylvania, Duke University, and Dartmouth College.</p>
<p>That's where you have me lost, Sdma89. I really don't know one person who really cares about international prestige. Why would you? Name recognition does not = international prestige. If you plan on being a crop duster in Sri Lanka then its fine. lol jk</p>
<p>We are talking domestic here. That's really where it counts. And domsestically...I know for a fact that at least dartmouth is more grad friendly. However, I respect your opinion.</p>
<p>Cornell=Upenn=Duke=U of Chicago = JHU</p>
<p>Brown</p>
<p>Dartmouth = Northwestern</p>
<p>idk how accurate this peer assessmsent business, its probably like 90 percent accurate. I think the different between a 4.5-4.6 is negligible.</p>
<p>Devil, Dart is essentially a liberal arts college, most ppl go onto graduate school. At places that are more pre-professional, Penn, Cornell, Northwestern, some ppl don't go past undergrad. At Cornell, hotelies, engineers, and architects do not go on sometimes.</p>
<p>Is Dartmouth really below Brown in peer assessment? Really..wow. </p>
<p>To answer your previous question, bball...here it goes:</p>
<p>top 11-15...
U of Chicago (this school is top 10)
Cornell = JHU
Northwestern=Brown
WUSTL</p>
<p>Edit: to Bball again...yeah good point. However, I heard (from the Darty board) that Dartmouth is the best school in this country in placing kids on Wall Street. Great networking there. That has to count for something, right? </p>
<p>Also, if we dont count grad placement, then how can we possibly rank these schools? We can't.</p>
<p>dam... I got in there, oh NOOOOOOOOO, I am condemend for life now b/c Devil says that its top 10 and I chose Cornell, O SHOOOT!!!!
JK, b/c it is kinda comical lol. ;)</p>
<p>You are right. Name recognition does not necessarily equal prestige, but the two can intertwine. Hence, when people hear the name Cornell outside of CC, you gain a lot of respect. The same goes with the University of California-Berkeley. Dartmouth College, though a member of the ivy-league and I love all 8 institutions (I got into all that I applied to), doesn't have more prestige than Cornell domestically.</p>
<p>LOL IMO Uchic is a top 10 school. It's pretty awesome and just (if not more) rigorous than Cornell. I went once and I saw girls literally crying on the steps after a final/test. Yeah, it gets pretty insane over there.</p>
<p>Edit: Sdma69, what are you basing this off of? Just wondering. I am looking at grad school placement alone so far because I honestly don't think any of these schools differ beyond that. In terms of grad stuff, it's:</p>
<p>Duke=Dartmouth
Upenn right behind them
Cornell right behind Penn</p>
<p>Uhm..i think.</p>
<p>Sdma89, which one you attending??</p>
<p>I believe she/he is a Big Red '09er if I'm not mistaken.</p>
<p>I gain a lot of my information through ranking guides such as USNWR, "The Fiske Guide to Colleges" by Edward B. Fiske, and other rating/ranking resourses, such as THES. In addition, I gather information through professionals. I know a lot of doctors, lawyers, and entrepeneurs. My mentor, who introduces me to plenty of people, is a stockbroker and a lawyer who lives in a prestigious neighborhood in Washington, DC. Throughout the whole college process, I've asked them for their personal opinions on the schools that I was looking at, and I've gathered plenty of knowledge, opinions, and ideas. </p>
<p>BTW, in the end, I decided on choosing Cornell because of the student body atmosphere of the school, the lack of grade inflation (I like competition), and the town of Ithaca. In addition, I know that a Cornell education will prepare me for the world.</p>
<p>Cool.</p>
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<p>Yeah DMC. My friend went up there to visit at Cornell, and he said he saw a girl crying in front of the chemistry building. The school is definitely intense. When you are in a school with that many brilliant people, the curves are brutal.</p>
<p>I think Dartmouth is overrated because it's just a small LAC, unlike places like Cornell which are large extensive universities with many branches. Think of Ezra Cornell's founding mission: "Every man, every study." At cornell you can truly major in almost anything. Dartmouth seems more limited in its appeal. . Plus it doesn't have a big name internationally, which I think is important.
If you're going for the small LAC atmosphere, I'd encourage picking Williams and Amherst over Dartmouth. If one ranks the small LACs, they consistently come on top. Sure, I admit that small LACs are probably the ideal place to get an undergraduate education, and this is coming from someone who's going to attend a huge univesity in the fall. So in that case, go to the small LAC that's absolutely strongest in your area. That way you are guaranteed not only to get the ideal educational atmosphere SPECIFIC TO YOUR MAJOR. For example, for English, go to Middlebury. Williams tends to be the best liberal arts college in terms of science. Middlebury is also very strong in linguistics. Like a previous poster said, Dartmouth doesn't excell or stand out in any specific major. Has Dartmouth produced any visionaries in any fields? Any of the brilliant minds in specific areas? I'm honestly wondering, I'd be interested in seeing the statistics.</p>
<p>Dr. SEUSS, MAN!!!</p>