I had a question about the transition from Oxford to Emory. I have over 18 hours of dual enrollment credits from de classes I took in high school (I say over 18 bc I believe it said that was the maximum you could carry over on the Oxford website). I read on another post that it is possible to make the 2 year transition from Oxford to Emory in 3 semesters (I didn’t see a clarification if this was accurate, could be totally off). As someone who is very unfamiliar with hours, credits, semesters, etc for college, I was wondering what the realistic soonest someone could make the 2 year move from Oxford to Emory, with the max 18 hours coming in and taking a heavier load or whatever. PS I have not applied or anything at all to either school yet so this question could be completely off base lol
http://oxford.emory.edu/catalog/regulations/academic-regulations.html
You have to have a minimum of 42 credits in residence at Oxford and 66 total credits to be eligible to continue on to Emory. Assuming you have the maximum 18 transferable credits, you’ll need 48 more.
http://oxford.emory.edu/catalog/academics/academic-program.html
Typical courseload is 16 credits, with a permissible range of 12 to 22. More than 18 is an overload, and permitted only for semesters other than your first.
You can get to 48 with 3 16-credit semesters. But you can’t get to 48 with an 18-credit semester and a 30-credit semester. Eighteen plus 22 plus 8 credits in Emory University Summer School (which counts as in-residence credits) could conceivably work, but it would take some planning to make sure you met the course requirements and were able to participate in Emory Connections Day your first year. Also, that’s a pretty miserable courseload with no downtime, and may be more expensive than a more traditional schedule due to financial aid policies and the inability to work over the summer.
@yahiko I graduated in 3 semesters. If you bring in AP/dual enrollment hours, graduating in 3 semesters shouldn’t be hard unless you drop a ton of classes. I brought in 19 credits from out of the school (took summer classes along with AP credits) and did fine with taking between 16-18 credits a semester. In fact, I only needed at least 12 credits for my last semester at Oxford to graduate early.
AP credits are limited to 12, which may not have been the case for @TheTennisNinja in making the move. It’s a different paradigm now, unless there is more of a full time go at it during the summer.
OP has DE credits, not just AP. AP is limited to 12, but DE aren’t subject to that cap, just to the 18 credit transfer in cap.
Emory won’t even count those credits if they are also used as credits needed to graduate high school. Even if those credits aren’t included in what is needed to graduate high school, Emory may not even determine which courses they accept and which they don’t until after admission. Counting on completing Oxford in three semesters before applying is somewhat risky. Tennis Ninja knew what he had (AP Credits and summer course college credit) before entering Emory College a semester early. Of course, questions like these should go to Emory Admissions and not College Confidential.
@yahiko @tennisninja : The AP credit limit and Oxford trying to implement a serious capstone requirement makes any desperation to leave earlier questionable IMHO. Unless one is on a particular track/major that can really use the amount of electives or remaining cores on main sooner than later (maybe highly tiered ones like NBB, QTM and now chem or any MS/4+1 programs), it may be an unnecessary hassle with the new paradigm.
@allyphoe : as @ljberkow alluded to, you can’t assume dual enrollment credits have Emory equivalents. We have no idea what all they took. If they have a mix of AP/IB and at least 6 dual enrollments, then maybe.
Either way, if anyone is asking “how do I get out early” before even applying, then they probably shouldn’t apply and should just apply somewhere else they’d rather be and are comfortable staying the full course. I get folks who realize, while attending, that they can complete the program earlier, but planning for earlier continuation before even being admitted to either school? I don’t know about that.
what’s wrong with trying to be informed? What if Emory or Oxford is not the best fit for me? Then wouldn’t it benefit not only me but Emory and Oxford as well? If so, then shouldn’t I try and find out everything I can specific to my situation before wasting their by applying? Not that DE credits counting would affect my decision at all, I am simply asking a question about credits and how the transfer in colleges works. I am not saying “I want to get out early!” I havent the slightest idea what my college experience is going to be like or how my mindset will change once I’m there. I do not plan on rushing through college. In fact I hope I DONT want to rush through it, I hope that college is different than high school in that I want to enjoy it and for it to last. I am sorry if my question about college credits has offended you in any way, I in no way meant to seem as if I wanted to rush through or leave college asap or any of the sort. I would be honored to attend either Oxford or Emory. And the only reason I mentioned that I have not applied yet is to show my lack of knowledge on this topic, not at all to state that this question had any bearing on whether I do apply or not lol
@yahiko I don’t think Bernie was offended by your post as much as he was trying to help you. I agree that all of us (alumni) hope that the Emory experience is a great and rewarding experience for all who enroll. Transferring in the middle of any academic year is a scary proposition from both a social and academic perspective. Nothing is guaranteed, but if you feel a fit for you at either or both schools, hopefully, your focus can be more positive than in covering yourself.
@yahiko : I wasn’t offended. You just need to make the best decision you can for YOU and you have time to figure that out. There is no need to plot sort of rushing your experience at a 2 year option unless you sort of “need” (the academic options I alluded to may benefit from accelerating your continuation) to . It makes more sense to come in expecting to stay both years and optimize that experience OR start off at an LAC, or start off at Emory College (if admitted) and be deliberate in crafting an LAC like experience if you so desire (there are Themed dorms with immersion options:https://housing.emory.edu/reslife/communities/fye_immersion_themes.html
on main, as well as the Voluntary Core: http://college.emory.edu/voluntary-core/about/index.html
program which has stood the test of time and now recently started offering research fellowships for upperclassmen who did the track: https://www.franklinfellows.org/ )for yourself in early years (it is doable even at schools ECAS’s size, trust me), that way you get the experience without having to contemplate transferring. I say make things as smooth as possible. Trying to continue in 1.5 years unless pursuing a dual degree or a very hierarchical major seems not optimal.
If your issue is financial (where I think 2 years at Ox and then acceleration through ECAS may be better), there are also like other options outside of Oxford/ECAS that may be better with need/merit aid. Either way, there are many ways to sort of dodge this scenario of feeling pressured to leave an option earlier for whatever reason before even applying. Right now, worry about gaining admissions to a place you really like with programs that resonate with you enough so that maybe you don’t feel whatever pressures. And you are right, you don’t know, but think more positively. Simply know that leaving early may become an option, but really only contemplate it after you are attending wherever you are admitted/matriculate. Assume you won’t need to do this. I am very pro-folks coming in (or approaching the admissions) with as little pre-emptive anxiety as possible (there is even a lot of academic fearmongering when student do choose a place to matriculate, especially if they were in STEM). For now, just get in and get excited for wherever. Worry about different transitions in your academic path after making some progress at your destination. Sorry if I came off harsh, but seriously, just get in somewhere that meets your needs/desires now. Investigate whether schools offer what you want (and please don’t let their marketing materials and tour guides sell you these rosy, vague pictures of excellence and happiness).