Most important point is in your your last sentence.
Students have choices and hopefully they make the smart ones
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I am an international student. How is MSU?
Michigan State University
Anyone know when new student orientation will be for fall students? I assume they offer multiple options.
Well said. I kept typing and deleting responses, unable to word it correctly. As a PSU alum, I donât want it to change. I stumbled, I made mistakes, but in the end, I felt like the growth was worth it. And I had so many peers who came from larger high schools who already had the mindset to take initiative, pave the way. They led me, inspired me, impressed me. I had other peers who started at branch campuses, in part because main campus wouldâve been overwhelming at first, but the branch campus helped bridge them over to that degree of self-sufficiency.
Itâs not for everyone, and that is absolutely okay. But I donât think the answer is to change the model to expect less independence from studentsâthere are plenty of supportive/nurturing schools to choose from if thatâs what your student needs. Nor do I think the answer is to send more kids to main campus if the data/research suggests they may be one of the students who would benefit from starting at a smaller, slightly more supportive campus, where they will be prepared for main campus if thatâs what they want.
Itâs fantastic when families can find the right fit and avoid the wrong one. But I hope we donât see Penn State step back from encouraging student independence. Just look at THON to see the plus side. Realizing what those students do behind-the-scenesâŠitâs some of the best evidence for the benefits of the Penn State approach, IMO.
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Just curious, what percentage of OOS students do you find do the 2/2? A number of kids from my sonâs highschool (especially boys) were given the 2/2 with SATs of 1400 and UW 4.0. We are in NJ and the reality of them living in a PA suburb to go to a satellite campus doesnât seem like a huge draw.
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Ha ha, @NJmomOOSkids I think our kids are living parallel lives! My daughter was also offered 2+2, but being out of state (we are from Texas), I donât think this is a good fit for her either unfortunately. Do you know if you can appeal 2+2?
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My daughter got into UP directly into her major.
We are from CA so a 2+2 would have been a hard no for us.
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I believe you could appeal if you changed something on your applicationâif you added the summer program or changed the major. Neither of which my son has interest in doing. PSU had been a top contender, knowing they donât give much $$ and many of his friends getting the 2+2 has absolutely softened the blow! Iâm thankful they made it an easy decision, on to the next!
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What major was your daughter accepted into? Just an FYI - for the VAST majority of Penn State majors, the student is admitted pre-major. Very few majors at Penn State are direct entry. Instead students work on entry to major requirements to get into their major, usually by the end of sophomore year. Other schools have you reach requirements to stay in the major, Penn State just has you do them first.
Very likely they applied to a very competitive college like Smeal or Engineering.
To answer your question, it depends on the commonwealth campus. Altoona, Harrisburg and Erie do draw from OOS because they have majors UP doesnât have and have ranked programs in their own rights. The others would not be a great fit for OOS.
OOS University wide is 35%
OOS UP Campus only is 42%
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Psychology.
Got her packet today!
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Does anyone know if there are any other majors other than undecided that are also likely possibilities to get reconsidered for?
Agriculture used to be the major used to ensure getting into main campus. I donât think that is the case anymore.
Are you opposed to undecided? I believe PSU has one of the best undecided (DUS) programs. It seems very integrated into other majors so you can still graduate in 4 years.
There are majors offered only on main campus. Wonât say more than that as I donât want to encourage taking that route.
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My daughter was accepted 2+2 Altoona in Criminology. Do I think she has the stats to be at UP? Yep. Graduating in 3 years with her AA degree, taking 20 college credits this semester, 3.959 GPA. Is starting in Altoona maybe better for her? Yes, small school (60 in her graduating class), OOS, cheaper tuition, town of 1200. I have no doubt she would have been successful in UP but Altoona gives her a smaller community to start. She also may only be there for a year based on what we have been told and her transfer credits.
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I wonder if anyone has experience with deferred enrollment, ie one gets admitted but defers the start for one year.
My S seriously considering it for Penn state.
He has not received the admission decision yet. Would it be a good idea to let admission know about the intent?
My son got into Penn State biomedical engineering. How is it as compared to UC Berkeley. It is uncertain over there so we are looking at options
Berkley is objectively much better
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