<p>It's a pretty well-known fact on campus that Penn has masterfully gamed the US News rankings ever since Rodin was president. The main reason why Penn is ranked so high is due to wharton undergrad, which is the pride and jewel of the school. The entire university revolves around it, both in terms of attention paid to faculty and students as well as the overall culture. Without wharton, Penn would barely be a top 20 school, on par with WUSTL, emory, and USC. Penn's college of arts&sciences has a very low yield, losing students to every other ivy except cornell as well as MIT, Stanford, Duke, and the top liberal arts colleges. The engineering school, with the exception of the M&T students, is even worse. In terms of job placement and respect, non-wharton penn students/alums are not highly regarded at all. Everyone knows that the only program at penn undergrad worth attending is wharton.</p>
<p>And…? What’s your point?</p>
<p>I think most of Penn’s applicants known that, besides for special things like Huntsman, Wharton is the most prestigious program on campus. I don’t think Penn is “gaming” on the US News rankings through this. It’s just how the school is. If you don’t like that, don’t apply.</p>
<p>I feel really bad for non-wharton penn students. They get ZERO respect on campus and out in the real world.</p>
<p>DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS ■■■■■ OR THIS THREAD–the stuff in here is pure nonsense and totally without factual basis.</p>
<p>This ■■■■■ and his/her outrageous thread have been reported to the moderators.</p>
<p>Penn students are generally regarded very highly in med/pre-med field…Penn med school is ranked #2 and I know of plenty of penn grads at JHU med, Penn med, and wash U med</p>
<p>I hope this poster is a ■■■■■… Wharton admits make up only a small fraction of the entering class (about 20%) so statistically they cannot affect university stats as a whole by a large margin.</p>
<p>OP…did you get rejected by Penn?</p>
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He/she is a ■■■■■, and has done it before:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1253940-inferiority-complex-non-wharton-penn.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1253940-inferiority-complex-non-wharton-penn.html</a></p>
<p>Flame is the name of the game. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder why these trolls even bother…</p>
<p>OP, you’re naive. I was too. </p>
<p>Penn CAS has opportunities that more than match one of the HYPS’ I was admitted to, and I honestly would never think of going to school anywhere else.</p>
<p>Sure, it’s bureaucratic and yes, it’s cliquey. But it’s also the best blend of everything that makes a college great. Both theoretical and practical academics, superb faculty, tremendous school spirit, unlimited post-grad opportunities for those who do well (regardless of school), urban environment yet strong campus core. I could go on…</p>
<p>LOL it’s like PrincetonDreamsv2</p>
<p>The design school is one of the best in the world…it was my second choice behind Harvard GSD…it’s not all Wharton…get the facts straight.</p>
<p>Wait - are we talking about Penn State? <em>rolls eyes</em></p>
<p>Ah, the hubris of the rejected.</p>
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<p>Well, it’s not like Wharton didn’t exist until Rodin was president. Your logic makes no sense… Wharton has always been a boon in Penn’s rankings, but Wharton alone can’t singlehandedly hold the school’s high ranking. Penn is a conflation of many word-renowned academic departements into one school, and it is this that makes it the world-class institution it is known to be.</p>
<p>If nursing was as lucrative and sought out a career as finance is, there is little doubt that Penn’s nursing school would be as selective and well-regarded by common folk like you as Wharton is.</p>
<p>A non-Wharton student can become a Wharton student if s/he chooses, correct?</p>
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<p>Not as easy as that. The non-Wharton Penn student still has to apply to Wharton, and from what I hear, it is still fairly difficult to be accepted as a transfer. The process is internal and it’s easier to transfer within Penn than from an entirely different school, but one has to take a few Wharton-esque classes, all of high rigor, and have 3.65-3.7+ GPA.</p>