<p>I posted this in the ucsd board but wanted to post it here to get more opinions. Basically, this is my situation: my admission at UCSD is being reviewed for cancellation because I did not complete the visual/performing arts requirement in the a-g coursework guidelines(applies for all UC'S). I said in the application that I would do it in the second semester of my senior year, but I then planned to take it in the summer, as I thought that would be ok. I did not taken the art course before the pre-graduation deadline, and my admission is now in serious jeapordy. I wrote an appeal while it is reviewed. Does anyone have advice about similar cases with the A-g provision not met? I have good sat's(2300, 1540 sat II) and gpa, though 2nd semester slipped a little(couple c's,b's). I did sign up for online art classes now and stated so in my appeal to show that I am proactive about the matter. I made a very heartfelt appeal(though not an "appeal" yet, haven't been revoked yet), but do you think I will be revoked because I did not meet this provisional admission condition. It would seem very harsh to me, but who knows. Has anyone been in a similar danger with a UC, and what was your outcome. If not, then just tell me your opinion. thanks</p>
<p>i mean, with ur test scores, you should be eligible by examination only, so im wondering why you have to fulfill the a-g requirements</p>
<p>First off, the VAPA requirement has been around for at least 10 years now, so UC should show you little sympathy. UC acceptances also state that you cannot fulfill an a-g requirement after you graduate (unless you are repeating a failed course). </p>
<p>Your admission was based on completing a-g course work, AND completing the rigorous senior schedule that you put on your application. In addition to blowing off the minimum VAPA requirement, you also contracted senior-itis. However, assuming that you have 700+ subjec test scores, you can appeal based on eligibility by examination, as #2 post suggests. </p>
<p>btw: the VAPA requirement is not "provisional" -- it is mandatory for nearly all applicants, particularly in-state; eligiblity by examination is typically used for OOS, internationals and homeschoolers. (UC's philosophy is that it is just unfair for you to skip a minimum requirement that everyone else in your HS has to comply with for their admissions. It would be no different if you skipped Alg II, another minimum requirement.) As far as I know, most online art courses will not fulfill the VAPA requirement, so you might check on transferability.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>why didn't you take it your senior year?</p>
<p>bluebayou, how can my SAT II scores allow me "eligibility by examination"? I have 4 SAT II scores, 730,750,760,780. How would these override the art req?</p>
<p>UCSD:</p>
<p>eligibility by examination alone is one way for UC admissions. It's based solely on test scores and for instate, you need to average ~720 x 5 tests to qualify, which it appears that you do. However, eligibility by test scores is just the minimum eligibility and does not mean admission by test scores, i.e., eligibility just guarantees you admission to a UC, but not necessarily your first (or second or third) choice.</p>
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<p>I understand, but since I was already admitted, and the only question is about eligibility (which they assumed would be attained later), could eligibility by examination alone prevent me from being revoked?</p>
<p>UCSD012, it is unclear to me whether you have actually talked with someone in the UCSD admissions office yet or just sent in an appeal. If you haven't talked to someone, I would suggest you call them ASAP to ask what, if anything, you can do to fix this situation. They are the best (and only) people to advise you properly.</p>
<p>Trickysockman, it's ELIGIBILITY by examination. Even if you are ELIGIBLE for admission based on test scores, admission is not automatic. The UC schools still consider your coursework, grades and other factors in order to decide whether to actually admit you. </p>
<p>The UC's consider the senior year courses you list when you apply as part of their admissions decision, and if you drop an A-G course that you listed on your application as being in progress, they can consider that as having negated part of what they admitted you on. Most of the UC's, including UCSD, don't allow students to make up missing A-G requirements over the summer after they have graduated.</p>
<p>For any rising seniors reading this, there is an important lesson here. If you decide to drop ANY courses listed on your application after you have applied, it is important to contact the admissions office of the schools you've applied to BEFORE making any changes to your second semester senior year schedule. This is particularly true of the UC's, but it applies to all colleges. Don't assume dropping a course won't matter - always verify with the admissions office how it may or may not affect your admissions decision before making this choice.</p>
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but do you think I will be revoked because I did not meet this provisional admission condition
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I think the odds are pretty good you'll be revoked. If you haven't already, you should call UCSD admissions to see what if anything you can do. But it boils down to this: you promised (in your app) to take an arts course senior year, they are looking at your transcript and find out you did NOT in fact take it. You aren't even eligible for admission to <em>any</em> UC campus without completing the A-G requirements. Good luck to you, but I would start thinking about alternate plans just in case.</p>
<p>UCSD;</p>
<p>Your "acceptance" was conditional on you becoming fully eligible. By not completing the minimum a-g coursework, including VAPA, you do not meet the standard for Eligibility in the Statwide Context. Thus, the only way you can become UC eligible is thru Examination alone (or Eligibility by Exception, but this is extremely rare and used primarily for athletic recruits, and scions of world leaders).</p>
<p>I think the only chance of having it not revoked is if your reason for not fulfilling the class, as promised is one amazing reason- teacher died, building collapsed, you get my drift, not just I was busy. </p>
<p>When you made the decision to not take the class, didn't your counselor or anyone say, not a good plan?</p>
<p>UCs promise to accept you, you promise to take the courses. What was the reason you gave them? </p>
<p>And did you just sign up for the online course?</p>
<p>you better be taking that art course now or youre damn well gonna be revoked.</p>
<p>edit: oh i see that youre taking one. then it should be fine...just cry or something if they ever call you.</p>
<p>Don't sign up for an art class over the summer without first verifying with UCSD that they will accept it. In general, the UC's don't allow students to make up A-G requirements after they graduate from high school -- so be sure to clear any community college course with them first, rather than assuming it will fix the problem.</p>
<p>But, don't panic just yet --- Do call to talk to them first-hand, however, and listen carefully to what they say about your chances of having your admissions revoked. In my experience, UC admissions people are usually pretty straight-shooters when answering student questions, but sometimes students only hear what they want to hear. So, call today!</p>
<p>I have already talked to them several times. I asked them today about eligibility by examination, and they said they will look into it for me.(thank you those who suggested it)</p>
<p>You didn't answer my question. Why didn't you take it your senior year?</p>
<p>scheduling conflicts</p>
<p>THen you should have dealt with it in the when the conflict came up. It is really no excuse because you should have dealt with it in the fall. So when you applied, did you say you were in the course and or did you show in all your paperwork no art class and no intention of an art class and they still accepted you?</p>
<p>When the conflict arose, which would have been in September or January, what did you do to fix the problem? If you were proactive then, it might be easier to make your case. </p>
<p>So, did you say you were taking the class even though your weren't and when you found out you couldn't what did you do?</p>