Poll: Rank these 4 colleges [SCALE: 1-10] on their QUALITY of education & Prestige!!

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<p>...what the heck....I did not know that Phead has a temper!! Name calling and everything.... anyway .. i am still allowed to add to the discussion right? </p>

<p>Kk in my opinion, Berkeley is an overall better school by 0.1 because of its sheer graduate strength. I feel its graduate programs triumph over almost all Ivys and top schools. However, over all they are peer schools. </p>

<p>And please, no name calling me... i am a sensitive child. </p>

<p>Lol i can honestly say i have not seen a CC argument with so much namecalling... i mean EAD vs the world was pretty intense but no name calling.</p>

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<p>"Also, JHU is not better at business. CMU's Tepper School of Business shares its #2 highest median salaries with Stern/Ross/Wharton at 60k and its top hiring companies are all top Wall St. companies/banks as well as T5 consulting firms. Not to mention the selectivity and acceptance rates are Ivy-esque with extremely high SAT/Rank while sporting a 12% acceptance rate."</p>

<p>That's not contested. JHU's business major is for working adults, not undergraduates. No one looking for a business degree should go to JHU.</p>

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<p>um...I think with this thread, I was asking to compare ONLY UNDERGRADUATE quality of education and prestige...I really didn't want grad school to play a role in this...but sure...why not....</p>

<p>so are we all like AGAINST the US News rankings placing JHU at the top above CMU and Berkley?</p>

<p>also when I said quality of "education" I didn't want to break that down into specific fields--engineering, medicine, law, etc--I just wanted an OVERALL, across ALL fields, for example if one took ANY ONE class at those schools, which school would provide the student with the best education...lol :)</p>

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<p>vader1990, I think you are in similar situation with me. What do you plan to major in? I'm guessing you're going somewhere in science area. I also picked list of undergrad schools similar to yours.</p>

<p>At first I picked something like this:</p>

<p>University of Virginia
University of Maryland, College Park
College of William and Mary
Virginia Tech
(above is in order of interest)</p>

<p>But it didn't turn out well on SAT score, so I'm little wavered on applying to William & Mary.</p>

<p>And then, I found your thread, and saw Carnegie Mellon on your list.</p>

<p>I somewhat considered CMU because I frequently hear CMU on good range of science majors. But, I live in VA, so I thought it was little outside.</p>

<p>Anyways, I'm not completely determined in my list yet, so I was just glad to see that you had similar list. So, I was just wondering which major you are interested in. If you consider physics, I would pick Maryland, CP, because you said you're in Baltimore.</p>

<p>Just as we are similar in the list of colleges, we are very opposite in that you live in MD, and I live in VA. I think University of Maryland, CP is really perfect choice for me, except that I'm OOS. And I also consider UVA because I'm instate for that.</p>

<p>So, basically, I was wondering which major you were looking for since we had similar list, and I think you really want to go to UVA but you're OOS to UVA, and I'm OOS to Maryland. Anyways, I look forward to hear from you.</p>

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<p>^You have to take grad and undergrad if you want their prestige. Honestly most people in the US aren't going to distinguish between grad and UG. No one when I say I go to Berkeley has said, "Wow, Berkeley is great, oh wait are you an undergrad or grad student?" Across all fields Berkeley's programs are strong. The thing about Berkeley is you have to assert yourself if you want to get the best Berkeley has to offer.</p>

<p>On another note I think this speaks to Berkeley's strength in the sciences alone.</p>

<p>National Science Foundation Graduate Fellowships for this entering grad class
Berkeley has 117 recipients this year, MIT comes next with 76 and then Stanford with 67. Berkeley was first by a significant margin, which is quite impressive considering how tight money is at Berkeley right now that it is still able to lure the such a large share nation's top science and engineering students.</p>

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<p>Oh, in addition, to add some info that vader1990 was asking for real people who got into those colleges and took courses at those colleges, visit my threads at UVA, UMDCP, W&M, VT in subforum: Colleges and Universities.</p>

<p>My threads are all named with "Physics at (whatever college)". I had some good responses at those threads about courses and general experience for physics or engineer majors. My threads were intended to be physics majors' response, but I realized most of them were engineering related. So, it is not completely irrelevant if you consider engineering since eng. majors take intro physics, too.</p>

<p>BTW, I hope this helps, and if you have any advice or suggestion for where to go for physics (I'd prefer theoretical part rather than research oriented.) please suggest any possibilities. [Also, just to let you know, my SAT CR is just below 600 right now, so don't give me prestigious suggestion of good physics schools like MIT or Caltech.]
Thanks</p>

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um...I think with this thread, I was asking to compare ONLY UNDERGRADUATE quality of education and prestige...I really didn't want grad school to play a role in this...but sure...why not....

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<p>Your post said nothing about undergrad... and you did say "quality of education across ALL fields," so that to me seems as though you want those who have breadth (all fields) and depth (high-ranked departments).</p>

<p>I referenced the grad school NRC rankings because of ease; I could easily have used the Gourman undergraduate rankings, or THES, or whatever--they all say the same thing.</p>

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I just wanted an OVERALL, across ALL fields, for example if one took ANY ONE class at those schools, which school would provide the student with the best education...lol

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<p>I don't see how else to make such an evaluation without looking at ALL fields...</p>

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Stanford’s SAT scores cannot hold against HYPMC and a couple of LACs. Stanford’s undergradate school is overrated. It’s medical school is inferior to JHU’s.</p>

<p>Sorry,didn’t notice that this thread is so old.</p>

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<p>Sorry you or your kid(s) did not get into Stanford, but that’s no reason to dig up a year-and-a-half old thread just to take cheapshots…</p>

<p>Or, for that matter, multiple other threads that are totally unrelated to Stanford.</p>

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<p>Talk about a non-sequitur. We’re discussing undergraduate institutions.</p>

<p>But okay, if you want to play this game…</p>

<p>Stanford business school > JHU business school
Stanford engineering school > JHU engineering school
Stanford law school > JHU law school (by default)</p>

<p>Stanford PhD > JHU PhD</p>

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<p>To sir with love…</p>

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<p>To be honest, I think I’d rather attend JHU undergrad than Stanford undergrad for any degree except engineering and computer science. JHU’s downside against Stanford for me is weather.</p>

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<p>^^^ Your CC reputation precedes you…</p>

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<p>wait, so the weather is a downside but Baltimore isn’t?</p>

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<p>RML hasn’t left the computer long enough to ever visit Baltimore…</p>

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<p>^haha, my post count is getting pretty high. </p>

<p>So the other day, my best friend was talking about how his off-campus house got robbed and how unsafe/shady the areas a mile or two outside of JHU are.</p>

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<p>It’s very telling that the two main TV series set in Baltimore are: “The Wire” and “Homocide: Life on the Streets.”</p>

<p>Let’s just say that the ER and trauma center physicians at JHU Hospital see more than their fair share of “action.”</p>

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<p>I am generally not a fan of Hopkins, but the campus is arguably the safest among the top colleges due to its extremely tight security. </p>

<p>Things admittedly get more shady off campus (e.g. the infamous sword incident), but Baltimore nevertheless has quite a bit of charm and is fairly cheap (unlike NYC or San Fran).</p>

<p>Of course, the quality of life in Baltimore has nothing to do with this thread.</p>

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<p>it was a personal thing. you don’t need to react violently. lol</p>

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<p>Go Hopkins!</p>