Possible Fall Schedule?

<p>Hey all,</p>

<p>im going to orientation tomorrow and so far i think i know what i want in my schedule but i was wondering if someone could critique it for me or give me any pointers on what i should or should not take. Plz keep in mind that i am going to apply to the comm school after second year</p>

<p>This is what i have planned for the fall..</p>

<p>Comm180 + Lab
Enwr105
Math 114 (Financial Math [I got a 5 on both ap calc ab/bc so im trying to take other math classes])
Econ 201 (hopefully...)
Musi101/Dram211(lighting effects)/JPTR335(japanese in translation)
<em>I can't seem to decide which one to take... to help fill humanities category in the CAS requirements</em>
Chinese 101 (I am chinese but have never written it... only spoken)</p>

<p>thanks in advance</p>

<p>You won't be able to sign up for that many credits without permission from the Dean. With it being your first semester, I'd take only 15-16 credits.</p>

<p>Financial math will probably be full by the time you schedule, I suggest taking STAT 212. The Stat AP only gives you credit for 112.</p>

<p>Chinese 101 is hard for those that don't speak it, but seeing that you do, it should be easy.</p>

<p>I'd hold of on taking a humanities class. If you get accepted into the comm school, you dont have to fulfil the CAS requirements. Econ 201 is fairly easy, and its such a large class that you'll most likely get into it.</p>

<p>IdefineCool,</p>

<p>thanks for the prompt response! I didnt take the Stat AP, so i should take the 112 instead? (i only took calc ap =[). So right now its going to be..</p>

<p>comm180
enwr105
math114/stat112
econ201
chinese</p>

<p>besides chinese is there anything else u recommend? I looked up the chinese professors on ratemyprofessor and they seem pretty chill</p>

<p>thx again!</p>

<p>I would stick with Chinese, get on the path to knocking out language reqs. For econ201, most people like Elinzga (sp?). But all econ/comm teachers I've ever heard about are good, as most people I know taking them never seem to rant about the teacher. Your schedule right now seems good, as you have a good balance of subjects. I would formulate up a couple of other class you could take instead of each class and start ranking each class. You have a good chance of not getting all of those five classes, so it's good to have lots of backs-ups (I've heard 15-20 backups is a good number..as an e-schooler, I never had or never will have to worry about scheduling as much as College kids, so I don't really know how this works)</p>

<p>One thing I do agree on with IDefineCool: don't take more than 14-16 credits your first semester. Even though you've probably been top of your class and on top of your game during high school, college is different. Give yourself time, and room, to experience your first year and do stuff beyond academics. That, and anything above 16 credits is a rude awakening to college and it might be very overwhelming/difficult. Good luck!</p>

<p>While we're on the subject...</p>

<p>I'm looking at taking Bio 201/203, Chem 141/141L, & ENWR 110 for Frosh Fall.</p>

<p>Are those classes going to be available Tues. at Orientation? I got a 4 on AP Bio, 4 on HL Chem, 6 on HL Eng, & 4 on AP Lit. Can I handle this courseload or am I going to suffer? I'm thinking pre-med...</p>

<p>Who knows if the classes are going to be available. No one knows.</p>

<p>And that schedule will probably not be wise. Drop one of the bios and take something else.</p>

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I didnt take the Stat AP, so i should take the 112

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<p>I didn't take AP Stat either, but I signed up for Stat 212. Did I make a mistake? Would Stat 112 be the better choice?</p>

<p>COD</a> - Course Offering Directory Stat112 isn't even offered, it's probably just a fake class they made up for 3 credits (like AP Euro gives you credit for HIEU 207/8 and those classes don't exist). Hrm... The registrar says:</p>

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STAT 112 - Introduction to Statistics</p>

<p>Includes graphical displays of data, relationships in data, design of experiments, causation, random sampling, probability distributions, inference, confidence intervals, tests of hypotheses, and regression and correlation. Students will not receive credit for both STAT 110 and STAT 112. (IR) </p>

<p>Credits: 3

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<p>So I don't think it really matters, take 212. There are lots of people who take stat so if that one's irregular, 212 must be the intro course.</p>

<p>If you're really strong in math and want a class that is statistics oriented, math 310/312 is a two semester sequence of HEAVY CALCULUS BASED probability and statistics. Like, double integrals everywhere calculus based. Those two classes aren't as hard as other math classes in the dept, but they're not for people who want an easy A. Stat 212 is for everyone else who wants a stat class.</p>

<p>Sorry, I think you misunderstood me.</p>

<p>AP Stat gives you credit for STAT 112, BUT you're still going to want to take STAT 212.</p>

<p>For those who didn't take AP Stat in high school, STILL take STAT 212.</p>

<p>STAT 112 was offered either last semester or in the fall, but its really just an easy A for those looking for math credits but not applying for the comm school.</p>

<p>Jask:</p>

<p>The schedule you outlined is fine. I suggest you ignore Shoebox's advice not to take the Biol 201 class and the Biol 203 lab in the fall of your first year.</p>

<p>If you're going to take these two Biology offerings, it's best to take them in your first year IMHO. If you don't take them first year, you'll likely be taking them during your second year, when you'll also have Organic Chemistry Class and Lab. I think you're better off getting them out of the way during your first year.</p>

<p>BTW, Stat 212 is no walk in the park when it comes to an intro level first year course.</p>

<p>Hello, I posted this in another thread but maybe this is a better thread to go to.</p>

<p>Possible courses:
COMM180
ECON201
ENWR210
MATH132
A humanities/fine arts course (dunno which one yet)</p>

<p>Back-ups:
ECON202
STAT212
MATH114
MATH325</p>

<p>I am completely clueless about the humanities/fine arts section though! I am not asking you to tell me which classes i should take, but can you share what classes you took under this category and what you think about them?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot!</p>

<p>re:lisieux
1. Go to Area</a> Requirements — Undergraduate, College of Arts & Sciences, U.Va. and see what kinds of classes will count
2. Go to the COD and see which classes listed fit your schedule that sound vaguely interesting to you
3. Go to ratemyprofessor and the course forum (thecourseforum.com) to see which teachers will make the class worthwhile</p>

<p>If you haven't had registration yet, even better, there is a huge book of courses that first years generally like that will count, you can look through that and match from there too. These kinds of requirements are so vague that you have to be able to find a decent course that you find interesting that will count towards it... You shouldn't need our help for that. I brought in AP credit for 3 of the credits and took a bioethics class for the other 3. Really, the possibilities are endless, find something interesting and worthwhile and you'll be set.</p>

<p>PS re: math325 - you need calc 2 to take that class, diffeq is tough i wouldn't recommend it for your first semester (...or year).</p>

<p>Hi, thanks hazelorb.</p>

<p>It was my senior, a math major, who recommended MATH325. He said contrary to what is written there, they allow students to take it without MATH132. So yeah.. That's just a back-up. And depending on how MATH132 goes, I feel like taking it on the spring semester. :P ^,^</p>

<p>I've looked through everything under the area requirement for Humanities now! Classes that I'm interested in, in (rough) order of preference:</p>

<p>PHIL266
RELI207 - Classical Islam. 'Coz it satisfies both Non-Western Perspective and History. (As you can see I'm <em>trying</em> to be very focused here. However, I'm more interested at RELI329, Christianity and Islam, but I think it's only offered in the spring. Anyone has any experience on these classes? Would you recommend RELI207 or RELI329?
PSYC230
PSYC240
PSYC250
PSYC260
PHIL242</p>

<p>Hoo'sdad's point shouldn't be missed. Stat 212 is a hard class from what I heard back in my glory days. I had friends that thought they would breeze by in a stat class, turned out to be very, very intense.</p>

<p>I have credits from the A-levels for the class preceding STAT212 so it won't be my first time dealing with stats...</p>

<p>Stat 212's a breeze. Real men take MATH 310/312.</p>

<p>When people say a class is hard at UVA, they don't mean it's hard because people aren't properly prepared (though I'm sure that factors into it). A hard class could mean: departmental harsh curving (...lots of classes do this at UVA), specific professor who grades very harshly, too much material in too short of a time regardless of prior experience, etc.</p>

<p>But, as first years, it is up to you all to not listen to everyone and make your own mistakes and come to your own conclusions about how hard certain classes are. Obviously, there are people in every class who get As. But there are also people in every class who fail. And who would voluntarily take a class to fail. Plus all of those people in the middle... Everyone on CC wants an A, how would you feel about getting a C because the class was too much for your first semester? Regardless of your high school prep, APs, dual enrollment, etc, living at college and learning is emotionally and intellectually different from high school. You need time to let your mind adjust.</p>

<p>The number one indicator of success here is how many credits someone takes. I'm not even kidding. If you have to spend more time on a class when you are carrying 4 other classes versus only 3, then you will not do as well. When you have 3 tests in one week (believe me... you will), you will understand. It's not like high school. These midterms/finals can be 50-100% of your grade. They actually matter substantially. Yes, those 3 tests you have in one week could all count for 50% of your grade.</p>

<p>No class at UVA is a cakewalk. My astr121 class constantly had D test averages. I'm sure there were a significant number of athletes in the class, and the tests from that class can't compare to rigorous science classes, but they weren't "Get 10 points for writing my dog's name" tests either, you had to study for quite a few hours and apply the things from the book to the tests in ways that were never discussed specifically in class. I'm sure the intro stat class is similar.</p>

<p>Balance out easy classes with hard classes. You have EIGHT semesters to take everything you want. Don't kill yourself during your first semester. Take a class load that will be interesting and challenging but not overkill. </p>

<p>Also, no way should you take 325 without 132. That's like how math 310 only requires calc 2 but there are double integrals involved significantly so calc 3 should really be the requirement. They waive requirements for people who are short on time to complete the major/minor is my guess, not for first years. You want to have every opportunity to succeed in a class: if everyone else knows how to do a certain integration technique and you don't, guess who is going to do worse on the test. Yup. Don't put yourself in that position voluntarily.</p>

<p>Also remember that college also includes making friends, being independent, etc. Really, do you want to be stuck in your room every weekend because you can't pass your classes or get the GPA you want if you have a social life? If you're asking for our advice, don't throw it back in our faces that you think it doesn't apply to you and that you're better than what we say. If you're going to do that then why should we bother giving you any advice. We've all been where you are, we've all made mistakes that hurt our GPA (or had friends that did, or something, in any case we've seen it happen), so you can repeat old mistakes or actually listen when an upperclassmen says "that's not the best idea" and be better for it. Not that we aren't wrong some times. But just breathe, slow down, and think, "Do I really want to take this class my first semester when there are so many other good classes I could take?"</p>

<p>Like, EVSC201. It's kind of a fluff class, but I took it in the spring and the professor was getting fed up with people lying about coming (its three tests, total, that's it for your grade. Miss less than four classes, and he bumps you up a whole letter grade. People were signing for other people..you get the idea). So, he's probably changing things a bit. But the class is interesting and he gives you really good study guides, so I'd say I spent 6 hours on the class (outside of class...which I went to every time, minus one when I had to beat down fellow EE students to get space in a lab to finish a freaking thermometer project that everyone waited until the last week to do).
Just a suggestion. To any e-schoolers: you can take this as MSE201 and get sweet technical 200-level credits. Woot. It's the only "easy"-A class of the e-school, and then your college friends will be all "the e-school ain't that bad" then you can beat them up*</p>

<p>*I don't condone hating on the Arts&Crafts kids. I'm an e-school tour guide, I'm banned from doing so.</p>

<p>Alright, thanks a lot for the warning.</p>

<p>I already said that I won't be taking MATH325 now, and only decide after I'm done with MATH132.</p>

<p>So what seems to be the problem is now STAT212? Well, if I want to take STATS and I have to take it sooner or later anyway, which class would you recommend me to take then, if I have credits for the preceding class? Repeat the class again? No right?</p>

<p>And anyway I come from a school that's super highly competitive in Singapore (Singapore's education system is very, very harsh), maybe that's why I feel a bit more confident about it. Also, I have seniors from the same education system/same school that told me that it would be manageable for us. I don't know how true it is so I truly appreciate you telling me the other side of the story as well. </p>

<p>My other question right now is, does anyone have any experience/advice on these classes:
PHIL266
RELI207 - Classical Islam. 'Coz it satisfies both Non-Western Perspective and History. (As you can see I'm <em>trying</em> to be very focused here. However, I'm more interested at RELI329, Christianity and Islam, but I think it's only offered in the spring. Anyone has any experience on these classes? Would you recommend RELI207 or RELI329?
PSYC230
PSYC240
PSYC250
PSYC260
PHIL242 (not taking now, just asking 'cos my senior said it was an interesting class)</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Here is my offical Fall schedule, I was not even sure why I signed up for Psyc 250 which I don't need for any of my requirement, and I heard bad thing about the professor. Is it too late to make any changes? How do I put myself on the waiting list for the class that is full? Any interesting classes that you recommend?
Chem 141
Chem 141L
Math 131
ARTS 161 (Drawing)
Psyc 250</p>