<p>Has anybody heard from MSM prescreening for voice? I'm anxious!!!!!!</p>
<p>favorable results from New School today.</p>
<p>jazzzmom- There's a wealth of audition info and experiences here <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html</a></p>
<p>violadad, thanks. I have dipped into that thread more than once. The problem is, my anxiety level starts to creep up! Terrible, considering I am not even the one auditioning! Seriously, I have gotten a lot of good information from this forum, and appreciate all that there is to read here. Having a jazz musician is a little rarer, and much of the info seems to be geared toward classical kids, but I think in general the audition experience is pretty much the same. Since we've been through one we now know what to expect for the most part.</p>
<p>Jazz performance at NEC invite today!</p>
<p>My S was turned down for audition at NEC today. He's discouraged, but always knew it was a reach for him. Thank goodness they don't all prescreen for violin!</p>
<p>I'm very sorry to hear that. I don't know how you classical cats deal with all that competition. </p>
<p>I also received an invite from the CI dept. at NEC today! Very exciting! Good luck to all!</p>
<p>jazzmom - S2 had back to back auditions at Curtis and Juilliard. A friend of his did the same, and had Manhattan on the 3rd day. (Both of them go to Juilliard, so they were apparently able to cope.) In our case, it was nice having them together - one weekend of travel, get it all over with.</p>
<p>FYI - It never stops. S2 is trying to figure out how many auditions he can cram into a week or two in March - grad school and professional ones. Plane flights in between each.</p>
<p>Stringfollies - my D is also a violinist, and I feel your pain. The competition for violinists is extreme. S2 plays horn, and it is an entirely different world. I often wonder if my D might have gotten further on the violin had she received the same kind of excitement that S2 got for his performances. Instead, she got a lot of ho-hum reactions, and teachers wanting to "give everybody a turn" - so she didn't get the star treatment he did.</p>
<p>Congrats to everybody on here who is receiving good news. I still remember the feelings when my kids got thumbs up reactions from schools. It seldom gets better than that!</p>
<p>Stringfollies,
At the risk of insulting NEC fans--I think there are many "warmer" places than NEC. My son refused to even apply there after he visited, Good luck with your son's live auditions!</p>
<p>thank you all. yes, violin is very competitive. he likes viola and wants to take lessons in school, but is not prepared to audition on it. it might make an easier time for him professionally though! NEC is one of the hardest for violin and yes, he's also heard that it's a very cold place and wasn't sure he wanted to go there. at least it solves the problem that his Eastman audition is for the day before the day he requested at NEC so now he won't have to choose. he would still have preferred to choose. hopefully something will work out for him.</p>
<p>It is very hard to deal with the rejection of prescreens. However, on the bright side, it is better to find out now before you spend a lot of time, energy and money flying to a school to audition where you won't get in. And I know that recordings are not the best way to judge students' performances, but given the hassle involved in all of this, it is not necessarily a bad thing to be able to take a few schools out of the mix before you even start.</p>
<p>true wisdom there - hopefully he'll be able to see it in that light eventually....</p>
<p>As demoralizing as prescreens seem to be, I agree with Shennie, that they can be a gift. It is part of the process and the reality check for each applicant, i.e. how tough it is out there and how much very talented competition will be encountered. Consider it, to some extent, a consultation about the possibilities and the fit. Good luck to all. Lorelei</p>
<p>I like Shennie's choice word..."hassle" and I also agree with what you are saying. That pretty much sums up this experience so far! </p>
<p>Best of luck to everyone during the audition process. Ours begins Saturday and will not end until February 23.</p>
<p>Linnlew- the fun has just begun. Makes cliff jumping seem like child's play. :eek:</p>
<p>Agree completely with shennie and lorelei about the prescreen as a potential plus.</p>
<p>And taking lorelei's comments on "reality check" and "talented competition" a bit farther, for those with no prior national high level audition based camp program or festival experience, it is often the first indication of an applicant's fit within a broader base of peers, beyond an individual's local and state experience.</p>
<p>How often to students pass prescreens but fail live auditions? I imagine it does happen, but I wonder if it happens at any meaningful rate, or if it's still wide open once you are past the prescreen.</p>
<p>My understanding is that it is still pretty wide open, particularly when there are only a couple of openings, at most, on some instruments. We know plenty of kids from previous years who were invited to live auditions and then denied admission. My son knows of four students (from past programs he has attended with them) invited along with him, to one school this year. Obviously, this is not all the students invited, and there is no way all five would be offered admission. For a full day's audition devoted to one instrument, we figure there have to be at least ten kids invited. Maybe I am wrong, but just thinking it through.</p>
<p>I once heard that they prescreen out 50% or so, and then have to whittle that much again, or more, after auditions.</p>
<p>I WISH it were such that passing the pre-screen meant admission, but we know there is still another pretty big hurdle here.;)</p>
<p>Strength vibes to all the parents of auditioners here! We need it (and we are just "support staff", not the actual auditioners!).</p>
<p>Most schools that I know still have lots more applicants than available slots even after the prescreening round. They use the prescreening round to keep those who they feel have no reasonable shot from wasting their own money and everyone's time. Getting past the prescreen is a big step, but it usually takes another big step to gain admission to a top program.</p>
<p>I agree completely that once past the prescreen, it's still a crapshoot. It all depends on the level of competition, and your audition results within THAT particular pool. Some years are far tougher than others.</p>