Predict my results, will chance back!

Please see next post for some more schools and post Admit, waitlist, or rejection predictions, not a chance of reach, match, safety.

Background:
Indian male
~ 200k income
From NY state
Competitive Public high school of class size ~ 300, usually gets about 3 admissions officers to HYPSM total. HYPSM usually never take more than 1 student from our school unless they’re legacy.

Stats:
SAT I: 800M, 780 CR, 780 W (9/12 essay) on only attempt.
SAT II: 800s on math 2, physics, world, u.s history, and chem. 770 and 780 on bio m.
APs: all 5s Calculus BC, World History, Biology, Physics B, U.S History, Statistics (self-study), Physics C both parts, Chemistry, Lang comp.

GPA: 3.92 UW, no weighted. By far my biggest weakness, would be lowest non-legacy gpa to get into a top ~ 10 college in school’s history. Doesn’t help that it’s a downwards trend; aside from a B+ as a 8th grader on honors precalculus due to blowing off HW, straight As up till junior year. In my junior year, I got a B- in AP english language and composition as the teacher is an extremely harsh grader (grades about 20 points lower than the other AP teacher, gave me a 5/9 on practice AP essay (which would make a 5/5 on the AP extremely unlikely), and a 4/6 on the regents practice essay when I got a 6/6 on the actual exam). However, I doubt most colleges will know this and may just assume that I’m another stereotypical asian who just sucks at english and is a tryhard test-taker. (I am actually known in my school for my laziness and would consider myself fairly good, although not brilliant, at English). Doesn’t also help that I got lazy junior year and earned an A- in honors spanish due to late work. Additionally, I received an A- in my first semester creative writing class this year with senioritis, although I have straight As in all my other classes (miraculously).

Class rank: barely in the top 10% if at all.

Course Rigor: very high, have taken more AP exams than anyone has in years, also took linear algebra with differential equations on a full scholarship at the local top 40 university last spring and earned an A. Took Multivariable calculus through my HS as a sophomore, and am currently enrolled in an online probability theory math course through UIUC and a pair of CS courses (through coursera and I need to make an update on this).

Senior year courses: Ap spanish, ap gov pol, apes, ap comp Sci, orchestra, creative writing, literature of social criticism, health, psychology (self-study AP).

Awards: 2x United States of America junior olympiad qualifier (grades 9-10) (have a 50% admit rate to mit, only 250 nationwide out of 200k who take entry level exams), high scorer at American regional mathematics league (~120 people out of 2k participants), 2x high scorer at state math competition; 4th last year. Rennselaer medal (60k merit scholarship to RPI given to 1 junior by participating HSs), national merit semi-finalist, rsi alternate (might be mentioned in rec letter).

ECs (in order from common-app).
Math team: 6-year participant, state qualifier since 8th grade, 2013 team mvp, captain.
Violin: plays for school and local youth orchestra, have played since 3rd grade.
Research internship at local physics laboratory last summer: accomplished nothing of note.

Volleyball: played for school and club teams since 8th grade, accomplished nothing of note.

Mathcounts assistant coach (9-12) saved program after old coach retired, spoke with middle school principal to continue it, have assisted coaches.

HS math circle co-founder: grades 11-12, allow students to participate in more competitions.

Chess team: participated since grade 8, have served as key organizer since grade 9 (no official title), won county championships last year.

Science Olympiad (9-12): pair of state medals, extremely strong performance at regionals competitons. No leadership however, I believe it is a harm.

Hospital volunteering (9-12): ~ 130 hours at a pair of them.

Fbla vice-president (10-12): 2nd, 3rd, 5th last year at states, a single 5th the year before, attended national leadership Confrence in 2014.

Teacher Rec 1; from math team coach and calc III teacher, known me since 7th grad, speaks to incredible accomplishments never done in school history, refers to me as one of her best students, and talks of my leadership skills and growth.
Teacher Rec 2: from grade 10 and current English teacher, Fairly average, says I’m more than what meets the eye, versatile, talks about me winning awards in mun too (where I also probably should have leadership but don’t).
Counselor rec: probably ok, either my ap world or Apush teacher described me as one of their best students ever too in their recs to her, but I unfortunately didn’t ask either for a teacher rec. She said she did quote those parts however, and had the best teacher quotes for me vs any other student (and she has some of my main competitors).

No additional rec

Common app essay: wrote it about internship: lazy topic, not too much substance, lack of mentor rec may be suspicious.

Schools(interview experience, supplementals, competitors, majors).

Stanford (REA): applied for math, somewhat awkward interview, great essays I thought. Had some mix-ups in ECs placed on common app, lower first quarter grades than I ended up with for mid-year. Rejected, a local girl with a below 2200 sat (but high grades and great leaderships and of course sibling alum got in).

MIT: off common app, wrote good essay that spoke to my individuality. Solid interview. Main competitor from my school is an international student with perfect gpa, great Recs, and a solid number of leaderships, but Canadian got him deferred at princeton EA and may similarly ruin him here. Last asian male to get mit from our school was 14 years ago.
Applied for 18C (applied math with CS).

Princeton: same essay as harvard. Good interview though I had some gaffes (notably asking him if he went there for law school (he was a lawyer) based on Carlton and will’s uncle going to princeton law in the fresh prince of bel-air) and him saying mit would be right up my alley, he emailed me randomly 2 weeks later saying he submitted an enthusiastic rec and is wishing me the best. Main competition is the yale kid. I have hopes in princeton’s yield protection; they waitlisted 2 previous star students who both got into harvard, Yale, and stanford (and one of them to mit as well, the other an Asian male with the waitlist). Also applied for math, maybe will change it to applied mathematics.

CMU: good interest essay, terrible interview (she was young and unprofessional, asked around her friends for knowledge about me before she interviewed), trying to get that thrown out. Applied for CS school and applied math as alternate.

Penn: applied for m&t program (engineering Wharton dual degree) with regular EE as a back-up. Skype Interview cut short after m&t alum had personal issue to deal with, only 20 min. Was somewhat awkward. Decent essays.

Duke: ok essay, solid interview. Applied for math in trinity.

Columbia: applied for applied math in engineering. Only ok essays, no interview. Usually takes 2-3 per year from my HS, none so far.

Cornell: good essay I thought, applied to EE, no interview. Will visit againnext week to show interest and see a class. Really hope to get in, they are supposed to like upstate ny and take about 20-30+ kids a year from my school, and the average gpa for once is lower than mine. Here I hope they don’t think I will lower their yield-rate as I think it is unlikely I would.

Please see next post for some more schools and post Admit, waitlist, or rejection predictions, not a chance of reach, math, safety.

Harvard: supplemental essay about mathcounts coaching, very good I thought, possibly my best essay. Interview I though I knocked it out of the park, she loved me, and was astounded by my test scores and accomplishments. Additionally, she has close connections with admission it seems (as she asked for test scores and grades and holds a lot of reunions and frequently visits harvard), and was a teacher at my HS before retiring, so she knows that my ap Lang teacher grades very harshly (so hopefully she let the adcoms know that. However, my friend (who got into princeton EA) from another school also had her, and also had a great interview, meaning that she may simply be very easy. Main competitors from my HS are international student, and a student with near perfect gpa and sat, with a boatload of leaderships (more than anyone I’ve seen in 4 years at the school), who’s also all-eastern violin and got into yale early. The only hope would be that the interviewer knows he got into yale early, so perhaps harvard would be afraid of lowering their yield rate, especially as a student with similar qualifications the year before got into Yale early and then rejected harvard after getting in RD.
Applied for math, may change it to applied math

Washu; applied for a full tuition scholarship. No interview or supplement. Applied for EE.

Case western: no interview or supplement. Did show a fair amount of interest. Applied for math.

RPI: no interview or supplement. Did visit for it’s medal ceremony. Applied for cog Sci.

Universiry of rochester: solid essay and alumni interview, didn’t visit till jan and was thus unable to do an on-campus interview however. This may hurt. Applied for math.

Suny Stonybrook: no essay or interview. Applied for BME. Hope for honors college. Didn’t send in app till near deadline for a rolling admissions school.

Please predict accept, waitlist, or reject for each school!

I don`t see what should stop u :slight_smile:
Chance me back? http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1741222-chances-for-all-ivies-especially-harvard-and-upenn-berkeley-stanford-chicago-ed-upenn.html#latest

Harvard: Reach
Stanford: Reach
MIT: Reach
Princeton: Low-reach/match
CMU: don’t have enough info.
Penn: don’t have enough Info.
Duke: Don’t have enough info.
Columbia: reach/ match
Cornell: Match/ saftey
The rest I know nothing about

I was hoping for accept/waitlist/reject predictions

I’m fairly confident in saying you have a better than even chance at getting into at least one of HYPSM. Testing, rigor are strong. EC’s are very strong. You say the GPA is weak for your school, and I’ll take you at your word, but as it’s still 3.91 UW and you’re in the top tenth percentile it shouldn’t hold you back. While the downward trend is damning, I’d try to get that teacher to write a rec. that speaks to your hard work in the class if possible - or at least address it in some way.

All in all, I think you have a very good chance at some of the ivies. Almost certainly will get into the SUNY, Case Western, RPI, and URochester. I have some experience with RPI and they love in-staters lol.

Why are you telling us who else is applying from your school… it’s unnecessary. I think you have a great shot at one of HPSM.

Harvard: Reject
Stanford: Accept
MIT: Accept
Princeton: Reject
CMU: Accept
Penn: Reject
Duke: Accept
Columbia: Reject(Why here?)
Cornell: Accept

Chance Back?
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1735051-chance-me-for-jhu-cmu-brown-harvard-and-more-will-chance-back-immediately.html#latest

PS: I applied as math as well at Harvard, CMU and Duke :wink:

Honestly, you’re into every college on your list but Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and Stanford. Those 4 are random and can and will reject people with your EC’s, grades, and scores.

Chance me bak plz http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1738675-chances-of-ucla-ucb-au-gw.html#latest

@theanaconda. I’m sorry to see some of the posters not even bothering to read that you have already been rejected by Stanford REA…and responding with bogus answers. I wish you all the luck with the rest of the schools! You deserve it!

…and I rarely ever make predictions…but, you will have several wonderful schools to choose from in April…

@gravitas2 i think a girl from his school got rejected, not OP

“Rejected, a local girl with a below 2200 sat (but high grades and great leaderships and of course sibling alum got in).”

This sentence is confusing with the random comma after Rejected. Did you get rejected or did the girl?

@manas1997 and @fallenwinter…why don’t you look at Stanford’s REA Decisions 2019:
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/stanford-university/1712948-stanford-class-of-2019-rea-results-thread-p5.html
It does a great disservice to someone who already received a tough decision to be told “you have a chance” or “will be accepted”…it’s adding insult to injury! And by the way…I have noticed that students who get their “acceptance” from Stanford in the early round DO NOT create another chance thread.

Harvard/princeton/MIT- im going to guess waitlisted at 2 and rejected at 1 and accepted off one of the waitlists
Stanford: rejected
CMU: waitlist
Penn: accepted
Duke: accepted
Columbia:accepted/in off waitlist
Cornell:accepted
Wash U-accepted
U Rochester-accepted
SUNY-accepted
Case-accepted

All just my personal opinion. Please chance back???

@theanaconda - You are a super strong candidate, and likely in many of those schools (perhaps except for all of the non-Ivies or Stanford). Discount any comment of “match” for any of the Ivies. Ivies and Stanford are a Reach for EVERYONE. If you had a 4.0 UW and a 4.5 W and 2400 SAT with 2 800s on the Subject Matter tests and great ECs, recommendation letters, etc., unless you were a recruited athlete, I would STILL say Reach for you to ANY of the Ivies. Now, you might get in to one or more, and again, you are a strong candidate, but you are still a reach, but ONLY because EVERYONE is.

Harvard- Rejected
Princeton- Rejected
MIT: Accepted
Stanford: rejected
CMU: Accepted
Penn: Rejected
Duke: Waitlisted
Columbia: Waitlisted
Cornell:accepted
Wash U-Waitlisted
U Rochester-accepted
SUNY-accepted
Case-accepted

Thanks for the advice guys
@gravitas2 cleared up that confusion.

Additionally, I got into Stonybrook and got a likely letter at Case Western!

Projecting by school is pointless for Ivies, because Ivy League schools are always a roll of a 20-sided die. I think you’ll get in at one or more, but won’t give you a breakdown by school. I do think your chances are decent at Cornell and Columbia.

Duke: Accepted
MIT/Stanford: waitlisted
CMU: accepted
Washington University: Accepted
Rochester: accepted
SUNY: accepted
Case Western: accepted.

HPMS are high reaches, but they are for everyone and you are a competitive applicant so you have a shot at at least one I’d say. Cornell, Penn, Columbia are low reaches. Wash U and CMU are high matches and Case, U Rochester and SUNY are matches. Best of luck!
Take a look at my thread if you could please :smiley:
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1743297-ecs-will-chance-back.html#latest

MIT accepts like 60% of USAMO/USAJMO qualifiers so I’d say you have a pretty good shot here. GPA is ok but isn’t detrimental.