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haha. Is this in reference to my “Gone with the Wind” reference in my other post in the Parent’s Cafe? </p>
<p>Well played m’dear :)</p>
<p>And yeah, like romani said, sex is natural, marriage is not. The natural thing is to have as many sexual partners in order to reproduce and promote the species. Its only society that makes us feel as if we must me monogamous.</p>
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<p>Rational =/= logical</p>
<p>But his is a silly point anyway, as the risks depend largely on the individual, as do the rewards. The rationality of the decision will depend on entirely on the situation.</p>
<p>If we assume Risk and Reward, Risk and reward are nowhere near as high as anything else you can possibly be doing. From that perspective, I ask the question why. Maybe you wouldn’t get the satisfaction from simply playing video games, but you’d be hard pressed to have your life negatively change from such action.</p>
<p>And for Roman, look at marriage in its abstract goal, a sort of binding if you will. But at the same time can you say sex without the goal of procreating is natural? Mute point…</p>
<p>I have thought about this topic and I’m not quite sure where I stand, but here’s my best shot at attempting to articulate my feelings toward it.
I hold my body in high esteem. I don’t want to endanger it (STIs) or my emotional/mental health. These two things must be taken into consideration when deciding whether or not to engage in sexual activity in my opinion.
A committed relationship (and this definition is so arbitrary it’s up to each individual) warrants respect and a deep mutual understanding, to me, which would permit for “illicit sexual activity”/premarital sex.<br>
So, in saying this, I believe that premarital sex is a very PERSONAL thing, but that it also should not be taken lightly out of respect for oneself and others.
Sex has to be approached in a modern view in my opinion. However, I fall on the other side of the coin of “constructionalist” in interpretation of the Constitution so…that position would best describe my views on this. :P</p>
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<p>Whoops, my mistake. Definitely read it as irrational.</p>
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<p>Well, there is emerging science that many other animal species that have sex for pleasure rather than merely for procreation. So yes, I’d say it’s natural. Is using a condom? Not really.</p>
<p>gypsy, who is talking piece of paper? I could care frickin less. Jesus writes His law on my heart, attracting me to doing that which is right. I want the opposite sex to NEVER say I was a slut or bad person who laid so and so. What a yucky way to live. I want my spouse to say, “Man I love being able to trust you. You live a disciplined, honorable life, one with which I can trust to be faithful to me and our kids.” And if my kids ever asked me if I drank etoh, took elicit drugs, or slutted out, I will be able to say, “No, honey, I have never done those things”. Then they would see how respectable I am, that I am not an animal, that they would look up to me. I want my spouse, my future kids, grandkids, and my God to be proud of me. I like being squeaky clean! It’s just so right!</p>
<p>^Actually, video games can negatively affect your life. Horrible example.</p>
<p>And having sex with protection can be absolutely fine…even <em>GASP</em> pleasurable.</p>
<p>A marriage license is just a piece of paper.</p>
<p>Chocolate you do realize the part where I said risk, right?</p>
<p>i don’t believe that marriage is just a piece of paper IMO.</p>
<p>Having premarital sex/commiting adultery or whatever is very, very bad. I personally look down upon it.</p>
<p>I guess it’s just because I’m very religious.</p>
<p>TrueLove, did I or did I not say:</p>
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<p>You would obviously fall into the later category. The majority of Americans do not.</p>
<p>Oh and FWIW- again, I have had premarital sex and guess what? My guy STILL trusts me <em>gasp</em>. So do my parents <em>gasp</em>. And I was conceived out of wedlock and I still look at my parents as great people and I still trust them <em>mega gasp</em>. And my uncle was born before my grandparents were married, and I am still proud of BOTH of my grandparents <em>faint</em>.</p>
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<p>Decrease risk through condoms, birth control, and safe-sex practice. At this point, many people will find the rewards to outweigh the risks. That’s why they do it. People don’t willingly do things they think will marginally hurt them.</p>
<p>^^^Why are equating premarital sex with committing adultery? </p>
<p>Yeah, religion seems to be the only “argument” people really have to justify their side.</p>
<p>@TrueLove, the main thing that bugs me about your post is how in almost everyone you are either implying or stating outright that anyone who engages in premarital sex is a slut. Can’t you state your point without degrading others decisions to make yourself seem as pure as the driven snow?</p>
<p>TrueLove, I understand what you’re saying. I respect you for sticking to your morals, girl! But do you honestly believe that any kind of pre-marital sex is wrong? What two people (of legal age even) are in a committed relationship and started to have sex because they feel that the other person is the “right” person. Would they be automatic sluts JUST because they had sex before marriage?</p>
<p>Aero, now explain why they don’t find alternative ways of sexual stimulation.</p>
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<p>Hmm, I’m not sure you can argue that the reward isn’t there. I think most people would take the pleasure of sex over video games. There are other things to be gained from sex, emotionally, that would obviously vary depending on the situation. The risks vary too.</p>
<p>Video games have limited risks while playing (epilepsy?), but the opportunity cost may be a consideration as well.</p>
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<p>“Can be … fine” is poor support. “Will be fine” is not certain. It’s silly to ignore the fact that even the most extreme protection is imperfect.</p>
<p>I don’t see anything wrong with it, besides it going against the beliefs of my religion (Christianity).</p>
<p>They say it kills a relationship and gives you nothing to look forward to.
Well, why are you marrying a person if you just want sex? Later on, after you have kids/sex after marriage, are you having a divorce because your fun with each other is over? because this is what you waited for? Ridiculous.</p>
<p>I think premarital sex will just refine a relationship, instead of kill it, and once the whole sexual list is lowered, you can see if you two are a very compatible match for each other.</p>
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<p>what if u get pubic lice??! whatcha gonna do then??!</p>
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<p>Dude, really?</p>