Prescreening Results

<p>Dubblebubble, can you tell us about your audition? Did they ask you any questions? What was the school/atmosphere like?</p>

<p>The UCLA audition went well. I wasn’t too impressed w/ the school. To put it bluntly, the school is a dump. Well, at least the music school is. The practice room they gave me was awful and their pianos are terrible. I don’t plan on going there…and it was a really disorganized audition.</p>

<p>@musicprnt, yes, I plan to make most of the experience, though.
What an honor to play for an esteemed music school. Personally, I feel fortunate to have come this far. I never intended to do so, starting cello when was 12. As a result, i have been playing for 5.5 years now…I am grateful for what music has done for me, and I hope I can express that gratitude and the joy I learned from my cello to the judges.</p>

<p>Rice’s campus is beautiful, and the student body definitely seems focused and friendly. I was actually 2 minutes late to my audition as they emailed everyone a time 15 minutes later than their actual audition time. But the people were nice about it and rescheduled me like 30 minutes later. During the audition, they dont say much to anyone. It wasnt cold, it was just very unexpressive as they want to make everyones audition fair and give no signs of hope or disappointment. They only asked me what pieces I had prepared. Then before I could start playing my last piece, one of the guys told me “im good, thats enough, thank you for auditioning”. Oh, and they also cut you off for the long pieces because of time constraints</p>

<p>Hi LOS, well great news that you had a good audition at UCLA. When my D auditioned there last year, all the faculty seemed to really spend extra time getting to know the applicants individually and tailoring the audition to each particular student. I could see how this flexibility could be perceived as disorganized, but I really truly felt that they were taking a personal interest in each student as opposed to the assembly line audition she had across town.
I do not agree with you that the whole school is a “dump” but do agree that the practice rooms are in definite need of upgrades. I do hope that this will not dissuade others from all the richness that the school has to offer. Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>Thanks, CLRN8MOM. Yeah, they spent extra time w/ most people but since I was the second to last person of the day ---- they seemed a bit tired. They didn’t give me a practice room though, they gave me a classroom which was not in good shape to be quite honest. I didn’t mind that they were 1 hr behind schedule but I wish they would have spent more time with me. They only heard all of my Bach and part of my concerto.</p>

<p>LOS, all of your Bach and part of your concerto isn’t bad. They say that a panel can tell whether they want you within the first 30 seconds of your audition. When my daughter auditioned a few years ago, some of her auditions were very short (under 7 minutes) and some went on a long time. The length of the audition did not seem to have much to do with the results. Good luck to you with the rest of your auditions!</p>

<p>Glassharmonica, that is very comforting to know. Thank you so much! :)</p>

<p>@musicprnt, did you have experience with columbia-juilliard exchange by any chance?</p>

<p>Columbia-Juilliard exchange students spend most of their time at Columbia, but have a lesson and maybe (but not always) chamber at Juilliard. After 4 years, they can re-audition and come directly into the Master’s program at Juilliard.</p>

<p>Kimchi-
Not directly, but I have known a couple of students who have done it, hence my comments. As GlassHarmonica pointed out, the exchange itself basically has you attending classes at Columbia while taking lessons and maybe doing chamber at Juilliard (some students do, some don’t). If you get into the exchange program, you can later audition for the MM track (from what I have been told by the kids who went there, you can finish your UG degree at Columbia in 3 years theoretically then go into MM studies at Juilliard). If you get into the exchange program there is no guarantee you will be able to get onto the MM track (I believe you can audition for the MM track program starting in the second year, I recommend checking columbia’s website and/or Juilliard’s). The exchange has relatively few students, and even less get into the MM track program from what I know.</p>

<p>Has anyone heard from Michigan for voice post audition?</p>

<p>@glassharmonia and @musicprnt, thank you!
@musicprnt, would it be possible to have contacts from one of your students?
Is it really that competitve? I know they only select 8-10 students a year, but doesn’t that account for the fact that not that many apply for the program in the first place?
How many students apply?</p>

<p>It is extremely competitve. Think of it this way…first you have to be accepted into Columbia (<10%) and then also accepted into Juilliard (around 20% depending on instrument) and then into the joint program.</p>

<p>You might also consider (if you get in to Columbia) just doing private lessons - there are plenty of Juilliard and MSM teachers that give lessons on weekends, and the New York Youth Symphony for an ensemble. Also, depending on instrument, some of the music studios at Columbia are quite good!</p>

<p>@flute1298, thank you…
i see…i couldn’t really find any stats on that…but thank you!
I’ll keep trying though! wish me luck</p>

<p>@ kimchi–Good Luck!!!</p>

<p>I think that acceptance into Juilliard is closer to about 7% (but, of course, depends on the instrument, year . . .). Certainly it is a much harder admit than Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc…</p>

<p>@flute1298, thank you :slight_smile: i really appreciate it
btw, is anyone auditioning for Music Academy of the West?</p>

<p>Kimchi-
I don’t have contact information for any of the kids I have known in the program, they were acquaintances of my son. As far as how many apply, it probably isn’t that many, but in a given year they probably only accept a small handful. Juilliard’s overall acceptance rate is 7% and Columbia is pretty damn hard, so getting into both is hard enough.</p>

<p>Basically, to get into the joint program, you have 3 acceptance streams:</p>

<p>-Get into Columbia (difficult)
-Get into Juilliard (extremely difficult)</p>

<p>Then, if that works out, apply to the exchange program. </p>

<p>Add that all up and it is extremely tough sledding. If your angle on the exchange program is to be able to get a ‘useful’ degree from Columbia to have as backup then getting an MM from Juilliard to attempt music (and still have the Bachelor’s from Columbia), you have other options:</p>

<p>-Get into columbia, and take private lessons with a high level teacher (plenty of them in NYC), and when you finish your UG, apply to the MM at Juilliard. </p>

<p>-Apply to another top level music program within a top notch academic university (Rice for example) and dual major…</p>

<p>To be honest, getting into the exchange program isn’t the be all and end all and to me it doesn’t seem to grant that many advantages over studying with a private teacher then getting an MM after on its own. The benefits are 1)possibly doing chamber at Juilliard and 2)be allowed to apply directly for the MM program and basically getting approval while still an undergrad (and more then a few kids in the exchange program who apply don’t get accepted into the MM portion…they spend 4 years taking lessons at Juilliard and finishing their degree). You could finish your 3 years at Columbia in the program then start the MM in the 4th year, but you could also do that by getting your UG degree in 3 years while taking private lessons and then applying to the MM program. Getting into the exchange program won’t make it any easier to get admitted for master’s study as far as I can tell and down the road it will mean next to nothing. Point being, you have options that do the same thing.</p>

<p>It does, however, double your bragging points at high school graduation. :slight_smile: (Not saying that’s why Kimchiboy or anyone else applies, please don’t attack me!)</p>

<p>@musicprnt, thank you for your insight!
I merely found the colubmia-juilliard exchange to be a perfect fit for me, that is all.
Great liberal arts education along with continued appreciation for classical music!
@stradmom, haha, most kids at my school are not even aware of such program because no one attempts to pursue seriously with music (I am the only cellist at the school)</p>