Question about AP Credits

<p>What percentage of the incoming freshaman at Carroll are coming in with the AB Calc and BC Calc credits???</p>

<p>I was admitted to CSOM Early Action, and I’m taking AB now. Simply put, I dont get calculus, and I was wondering if I would be behind the curve without the 4 or 5 in AB because I dont see myself getting the credit. </p>

<p>I’m probably gonna get an array of different answers on this one.</p>

<p>I haven't seen any specific data for CSOM, but here's a link to an article with info for the entire freshman class entering BC in 2004 (i.e., Class of 08):</p>

<p>Head</a> start - BCM - Spring 2005</p>

<p>According to this, 411 out of 2,309 freshmen (17%) had satisfied their math core requirements with AP credit, which meant that they had received at least a 4 on the AP Calc AB exam or the Calc BC exam. (111 of these students got a 5 on the Calc BC exam so that they could go directly into Multivariate Calc at BC.)</p>

<p>It would be logical to assume that a large percentage of the students scoring high on AP Calc exams are going into math and/or science majors, but let's discount that and just assume that these students are spread proportionately across all of BC's schools. That would imply that roughly 17% of CSOM's freshman class had AP credit in math.</p>

<p>So even if these numbers have increased over the last few years (continuing the trend of more students taking AP classes in high school), the vast majority of students would still not have AP credit for math. So don't worry, you will be in good company!</p>

<p>Therefore, it would also be logical to assume that </p>

<p>So</p>

<p>My son is deciding on BC, while he is going to be a Biology major not business, he will be coming in with several AP credits due to 7 AP classes taken in high school, in Statistics, Bio, Calc AB and Physics, I don't know if the credits will be enough to be given advanced standing at BC but I assume a lot of kids will come in with many credits.</p>

<p>Mom43, that's what the article I cited was about. Even 4 years ago, 55% of the freshman class entered BC with at least one AP credit. As more and more students take AP classes, and as BC gets more and more selective (as the number of applications continues to grow year after year), there is no doubt that more and more admitted students will be receiving AP credit -- and for multiple classes as well (like your son). But what I was trying to address was the OP's specific question about the prevalence of AP math credit for CSOM freshmen.</p>

<p>Worried mom- I agree with you not to worry about the AP math credit, since everyone has to take Calc as a freshman, take it again instead of being pushed into Multivar Calc, a class that you may not be ready for . Sometimes that Advanced placement is not a great thing.</p>

<p>i got a 4 on the AP AB test last may and am a freshman in CSOM right now. i got out of my calc requirement and the only math i have to take in college is stats, which i took first semester and found very easy, and math for management which i will be taking next semester (not really sure what it does) if the $80 stub of the AP test doesnt bother you, then go for it!</p>

<p>you wouldnt be behind the curve at all, a lot of kids take calc I because they either did not get a 4 or 5 or just didnt want to. its just one less elective you get to fill up with some easy/fun class later on!</p>

<p>I got a 4 on the Calc. AB exam</p>

<p>Are you saying I don't need to take any Calc. classes in BC at all?</p>

<p>that would be awesome</p>

<p>Since you got a 4, you won't have to take a calculus class at BC although you will have other required math classes:</p>

<p>Math</a> Course Selection and Advice - Boston College</p>

<p>i'm gonna b in the college of A&S, but i'm taking BC right now. calculus is easy, i'm sure ill get a 5 on my AB subscore, and at worst, a 4 on the BC exam. should i go ahead w/ multi variable calc or just take stats- would it look bad if i settled for stats?</p>

<p>you don't need stat if you're in A&S. stat is a required course for CSOM.</p>

<p>i wanna pass it. off topic, but any study tips? i think im screwed.</p>

<p>go on collegeboard and look at previous years open ended problems. i did all of them from the past 5 years or so and i felt really prepared. then my calc teacher gave us the MC from tests from god knows how many years. </p>

<p>last years open ended would be a REALLY good thing to try. i had been doing really well on all of that practice from years before and then the exam open ended blew me away. one of the questions i had never even seen anything like it before. many kids felt that way, lots of facebook groups abuot the impossibleness of it. so if you can do those youll be set.</p>

<p>The AP exams are scaled... Even if you get one question right out of the entire test and everyone else doesnt answer a question correctly, you'll still get a 5. You shouldn't freak out if you think you did poorly, because chances are, a lot of other people did poorly as well. Collegeboard always wants to have a certain percentage of people getting 5's, 4's 3's, 2's, and 1's.</p>

<p>You earn zero credit from AP tests (with one exception). AP tests with a satisfactory score will fulfill core curriculum requirements (if you're in CSoM, this is a very good thing because you have a greater opportunity to do a double concentration if you please). The one exception is if you earn 24 "credits" (AP Calc BC is nine and I assume Chemistry is nine as well with most of them being less than that) you may be invited for sophomore standing (three years graduation), but this rarely happens (one or two students per year if they would like to cut down on tuition costs). You can not accelerate graduation with summer classes or anything like that. The goal of the admissions office (as stated by Mary French this morning) is to offer four years of college experience, so AP credits aren't exactly prevalent. Once you fulfill the curriculum requirements, you can choose any class that interests you in place. AP gives you more options, but it doesn't give you credit.</p>

<p>In addition, curiously, your AP Calc AB class doesn't do any open response or multiple choice in class as practice? We are finished with the curriculum (I suppose since it's block scheduling full-year) and we have been just going over the actual tests from previous years.</p>

<p>As for advice, open response usually has one region problem (area between two curves, rotating curves about axes, solids with known cross sections), one table of data (usually a derivative or integral problem), one related rate, and one question about IVT, MVT, and such. You may see an optimization problem as well.</p>

<p>Pahreen- do mean that if my son has at least 24 units of credit from AP he may qualify for advanced standing, right now he qualifies for credit for :</p>

<p>AP Biology-5
Statistics-4
Calc AB-taking soon( will get 4 or 5) has A in the class
AP Physics- (assuming 4 or 5) has an A in the class</p>

<p>This looks like 22 unit credit, would need 2 more, the only other test he could take is the Latin exam (would need a 4). But he didn't sign up for it, this may make the difference whether we could afford BC or not. The tests are 1st week of May so will have to decide.</p>

<p>optimization doesn't occur often on the AP. you will need to know the taylor series and everything associated with it because it will definitely be on the test.</p>

<p>it is not 22 units of credit.
AP Biology: 6
Statistics: 3
Calc AB: 3
Physics: 6
In total, your son will net 18 credits.</p>

<p>Taylor series is definitely BC material.</p>

<p>taylor isn't that bad. its the series part that gets me.</p>