Question about CSU english transfer-ability.

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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So I took an english course 5 years ago at SDSU and although it is equivalent to my CC’s 1st english course it is obviously not directly articulated with the UC system. I’m worried because I just received my TAG confirmation back from UCI where they stated “Complete the second UC-transferable English course with a grade of C or better by the end of spring 2019”
as a condition.

Is this them indirectly telling me that the course I took 5 years ago is not going to be counted towards the requirement? Should I just take another english course in the Spring to be safe?
I have contacted the schools via email but they are taking their time with the responses and I register for my spring courses next week so I’m a bit worried.
Any advice would be appreciated.

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Up to you to weigh risks & rewards, but it’s what I would do. If you hear back that it is ok then you could drop it if you want.

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If that SDSU English course is generally seen as equivalent to English 1, but you need an English 2 course, then you should take an English 2 course, right?

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Take the second course. They are directly telling you to do that. If you are doing IGETC, you need to anyway.

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The english course is equivalent to english 2. But seems like I will have to anyways? if what Ohm888 is saying is right. Although I did some more research and I found this on Berkeley’s site

https://admissions.berkeley.edu/transfer-courses-by-institution

I looked up SDSU and the course I took there RWS 200 and it says its equivalent to ENGLISH R1B at Berkeley.
So I’m not sure, I guess the safest thing to do is just take it and drop it if it turns out I don’t need It.

I can update once I receive an email back.

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If you’re doing IGETC the second course needs to be critical thinking/comp blend which is only at the CCCs and some CSUs. It seems to imply in the description in that link that it has a critical component. However, you need verification if you’re doing IGETC. The fact that the UC sent you that message when they have unpublished articulations with the CSU in hand makes me still think you should take another English.

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Have you taken a course equivalent to UCB English R1A? (Or have any applicable AP or IB credit?)

(Also, other UCs and CSUs may have different equivalencies.)

In terms of IGETC, have you asked the IGETC person at your CC (which is?) whether you currently have IGETC areas 1A and 1B (for UC; you also need area 1C for CSU) fulfilled, or which course you need to take in addition to fulfill those IGETC areas?

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I have taken a course equivalent to first year english at my CC. I am also not planning on completing IGETC, I will be missing a physical science course. I’m not sure if its worth taking the last course here at my CC (Southwestern College) as I’m already planning on taking 15 units(if I do take english) with a part time job and extra curriculars.
Although do you guys think IGETC is worth completing if my major is Computer Science? If it is worth it I might reconsider my priorities.

Also I have not contacted the IEGTC person or counselor about it but maybe I should,(the counselors here aren’t that helpful, so I haven’t really gone much)

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If you decide to do IGETC, CS is in College of L&S at Berkeley and you need full IGETC for L&S if you choose it, so don’t do it if you can’t finish all by spring. Also keep in mind L&S at Berkeley will not let you use AP for breadth, although you can use if for IGETC. I’m just talking Berkeley, here.

I think you need to contact Berkeley and find out why they sent you that email about the English course. A mess up with English can lead you not getting into any UC. The two English are a very big deal with them.

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Can you clarify that your English courses were Southwestern ENGL 115 (equivalent to UCB ENGLISH R1A on http://www.assist.org ) and SDSU RWS 200 (equivalent to UCB ENGLISH R1B on https://admissions.berkeley.edu/transfer-courses-by-institution )?

(It would have been easier for everyone else to understand and help you if you had just named the courses up front.)

If so, they would appear to be OK for UCB, but if they sent you that email, you want to verify with them. However, for other UCs, you need to check specifically whether these courses cover any applicable English composition requirements.

Also, CS majors at some campuses (e.g. UCLA, UCD, UCR) require non-CS science (often physics), so you may want to take physics courses suitable for physics and engineering majors if you want to open up those options. If that is all that you have left for IGETC, you may want to investigate the IGETC path.

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I’m sorry I didn’t clarify upfront, but yes my courses were ENG 115 and RWS 200.
Also it was UCI who sent the email about requiring the second english course as I am tagging with them.

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UCI has a lot of weird requirements for its CS major that community colleges do not cover, so you may have to spend a few quarters after transfer to “catch up” on CS courses, which can delay graduation.

You need to ask UCI if your combination of Southwestern ENGL 115 and SDSU 200 will fulfill UCI’s lower division writing requirement, and if that is required to complete before transfer (even if not required before transfer, it is desirable to complete it before transfer).

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Ok I will try to call them if I don’t get an email response soon.

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If I get my IGETC certified by my school would the UC’s then accept the english course?
That might be a better option than retaking english because instead of repeating a course I could just take my physical science requirement.

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http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/transfer/general-education-igetc/igetc/igetc-campus-guidance/index.html shows UC campus acceptance of IGETC for general education requirements, which should include English composition requirements (but check on campus web sites to be sure). Some majors or divisions may not accept IGETC, or may require additional general education courses beyond IGETC.