<p>I have heard conflicting things about this so I figured I would ask here.
After Graduation do Mids going Marine Corp get the 30 days basket leave that Mids who go navy get? I have heard from prior grads that it puts them in the red leave wise, meaning they have negative days accrued and do not earn more leave until all of the negative leave days are made up. Any truth to this?</p>
<p>There is a Marine regulation that clarifies use of leave accrued while in combat situations. I don’t remember the exact number. Basically, it clarifies for Commanders–really for their discussion w/ troops–how combat leave is taxed differently than ordinary leave. Almost as an afterthought, there is a comment that there is no “basket leave” w/ as it applies to combat leave accruals. [If I am remembering this correctly] Perhaps this is the source of the confusion.</p>
<p>I’ve always been told that “basket leave” derives from the tradition of placing a service member’s leave request “in the basket” until such time as the service member returns, at which time the slip was disposed of. There being no official record of the leave request, the leave was not charged against the soldier’s leave account. Classification: Basket Leave.</p>
<p>In a different context, it is not unusual for a civilian government employee who is transferred from duty station to duty station to “take a few day” to find a place to live and get yourself oriented. Come in, check in, and then take off to get the lay of the land. Not quite “basket leave” but certainly time away that was not charged to leave accounts.</p>
<p>Straight and narrow? probably not. I doubt Marines commissions are treated differently than their Navy counterparts.</p>
<p>Obviously you would not be able to take leave until you get out of your negative balance… that’s pretty much standard Navy-wide.</p>
<p>This so called “basket leave” happens all the time, especially after deployments and in commands that are, well, let’s say less than “satisfactory in their organizational skills.”
Leave chits get filled out, taken up to the Administration section, but the Leave Control number never gets entered, which is necessary for the leave to be taken out of your account. Or they just hold on to the chit, and then shred it when you get back… like stated above. As long as no incidents occur while you’re gone, you’re set for some free leave.</p>
<p>As far as leave on deployment and such, which are almost always considered “combat zones,” especially in the good ol’ sandbox, you still gain it at the regular interval of 2.5 days/month. You get tax-free pay and other nice little perks, and if your deployment gets extended… you’re on the path to some of that “basket leave,” about 2 weeks of it.</p>
<p>But I really doubt they would screw you over like that after graduation, Marine Corps or Navy. The mids going to the Corps have to go through all that schooling at Quantico, VA, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t be entitled to that leave you’re talking about while their Blue side counterparts would.</p>
<p>Meg,</p>
<p>I copied the following paragraph out of Marine Corps Order (MCO) 1050.3H (<a href=“http://www.marines.mil/news/publications/Documents/MCO%20P1050.3H%20W%20CH%201-3.pdf[/url]”>Publications) which is the Leave, Liberty, and Administrative Absence</p>
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<p>It is a identical situation for the Navy (MILPERSMAN: <a href=“http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/F4593687-C897-422D-AB82-A114D0686433/0/1050010.pdf[/url]”>Navy Personnel Command)</p>
<p><a href=“2”>QUOTE</a> Graduation
Leave
Graduation leave is the term used to describe
a period of authorized absence granted as a
delay in reporting to the first duty station
in the case of graduates of the Naval Academy
who are appointed commissioned officers in the
Armed Forces. Graduation leave is not
chargeable to member’s leave account.
[/QUOTE]
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<p>Now with that being said, the needs of the Navy and Marine Corps supersede this regulation. Notice the Marine Corps used the caveat “normally” and the neither service specified a guaranteed amount.</p>
<p>The way it worked for us was we received 30 days of “free” leave which we were not charged for. That began on 25 May the day of graduation. My TBS company did not pick up until 03 July. We were charged for the additional days following the original 30 which put us in the red since during that time period we had only accrued 2.5 days of leave.</p>
<p>Thank you very much!</p>
<p>I didn’t really get why it would be one way for the navy, and another for Marines. I think the husband of the girl who told me about this was in a different situation then most, I know he didn’t start TBS until the may following graduation, maybe that is what made the difference. Thank you again.</p>
<p>it really depends on which TBS company you are assigned to. One leaves within a few days of graduation, the other is about a month after</p>
<p>When I went through academy grads typically chose either Delta or Echo company. Delta started in the middle of June and Echo in the beginning of July. Since the 202K plus up has hit the Marine Corps an additional training company has been added to TBS. Currently Echo company starts a couple weeks after graduation and Fox company starts beginning of July. That being said, being an acadmey grad, you pretty much have orders locked in for your start date of TBS for Fox company unless you request to go earlier.</p>