Question about Yale...

<p>I have a questions</p>

<p>Does Yale have more competitive kids or cooperative ones?</p>

<p>While everyone at Yale wants to do well, the atmosphere is very relaxed and cooperative. There’s no I-won’t-share-my-notes-with-you, sabotaging, or anything of that sort.</p>

<p>That’s what I love.</p>

<p>Sabotaging?</p>

<p>that seems awesome! im glad its not overly-competitive.</p>

<p>I think the OP meant they love the non-competitive nature between Yale students. However, each student is incredibly competitive but with themselves. Princeton’s grade deflation policy, on the other hand, promotes competitiveness between students because there are only a certain number of each grade that can be given.</p>

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<p>haha, just making sure.</p>

<p>:P I actually read it like that at first too, and was ready to suggest Columbia or Princeton!</p>

<p>Well, I mean this</p>

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<p>is the case at any school, Yale included. It’s just that Princeton has a much lower percentage of A’s and so on than we do. But regardless, there’s no malicious competition going on even if the grades are curved.</p>

<p>Question:</p>

<p>Is it harder to get in to Yale in terms of SAT? If my CR score is about 640, applying to Yale Engineer is harder than to other majors?? </p>

<p>I am an international student so the CR score is not really high</p>

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<p>Not sure exactly what the question is, sorry. Yale has high SAT standards regardless of major. When you are applying to Yale, you are only applying to Yale and not to a specific major. Although the application asks for your interests, it is just for information. You are accepted into Yale as a whole and you’re free to make your decision about majors later. Yale has been trying to increase the science/engineering presence in its student body, I believe, but I don’t think that lowers the standards at all for people who show strong interest in those areas.</p>

<p>its hard to get in2 any uni if ur scores are comparatively lower than your peers…</p>

<p>and regardless of whether your international, your expected to do the same if not better, since there is much more competition for international applicants than there is for domestic applicants… =/</p>

<p>Babyboom, from what I have heard, admission officers are not expecting as high CR scores from internationals as they would from domestic applicants/applicants whose first language is English, since they understand that you (a) face a language barrier (b) are proficient in another language. I have friends who have gotten into Columbia, Yale, and Harvard with similar CR scores. That is not to say that having a 2400 would not help you; it merely does not hurt you in the same way it would hurt a native speaker :)</p>

<p>^ I would disagree. While they would be more impressed with a V high CR or W score from a second language english speaker, I doubt they would give too much leeway. 640 imo is very low for Yale. Also important to note that some Internationals are first lang eng speakers…</p>

<p>For engineering, the CR score is maybe not that important, but if you could raise it into the 700s I think that would help a lot.</p>

<p>^ Idiosyncra3y, you are certainly right that being a non-native speaker does not give you the right to completely screw CR up. Perhaps “CR tolerance” really is just a fable told by anxious non-natives. In any case, improving the CR score will help a lot. That said, cases of under-700 admits still exist - and attest, I would say, to the holistic nature of the admission process.</p>

<p>^ Yes. Wow, I just read the OP and realised how far off topic we have come :)</p>

<p>I’m an international and got 800 CR. I know of others who have +700. A leeway or something like that would be quite unfair to us… just saying.</p>

<p>people study together and collaborate on p-sets all the time. people definitely aren’t cutthroat. that said, people generally won’t study with you if you don’t pay attention in class and don’t know what you’re talking about…</p>