<p>hey carbonate. I think I got a lawn to mow.</p>
<p>heh</p>
<p>Is that your standard line after losing an argument, or did you come up with that one after a fierce brainstorming session just for me?</p>
<p>umad nerd?</p>
<p>Ok, this thread is getting ridiculous. It’s like a rap battle minus the rhymes. I tried to change the combative atmosphere by attempting to change the topic, but some people here are continuing to act like little children. In the words of Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along”?? Or in my own words, “Can’'t we all just smoke a bong??” PEACE</p>
<p>idk man im tryin to figure out what’s it like being a pseudo intellectual virgin</p>
<p>heh</p>
<p>Carbonate, you’re clearly bitter about going to Rutgers with students who are, on average, not as high-achieving as you are. I know people who feel similarly. I think that this mentality stems largely from all that goes into where you go to college; some people define you by the caliber of the university you go to. That doesn’t mean you have to define yourself by where you go. Look, lots of people coming into Rutgers aren’t motivated academically, and many need remediation. There are also some very advanced students and bright people. Don’t define yourself by the people who go the same university as you do, just be independent and do well on your on terms. I could be wrong, but I think your anger stems from feeling grouped with the people who go to Rutgers. Ultimately, no one on this board will sympathize with you. Many people will feel antagonized by you. Why are you arguing with people you consider unintelligent?</p>
<p>johokat: in case you didn’t notice, i already dropped “u mad” on you. repeating me isn’t going to make you look any better, it’s a cheap imitation…followed by some predictable nerd/virgin jokes. you can’t even get into college, you playa you. </p>
<p>supersaiyan: not sure what you’re talking about, i’m not at all bitter about going to rutgers. this argument started over who rutgers was giving full scholarships to, particularly people who did not deserve it. imo your education is what you make of it, barring a really bad poor academic institution (i.e. community college) or an exceptional one (harvard, MIT, etc) there is really no significant difference. i don’t mind going here and i think there are plenty of bright people, it’s just a shame that they are passed over for financial rewards while subpar community college transfers aren’t. </p>
<p>Why argue with the unintelligent? They have to learn somehow. It takes a really elitist mindset to believe that people are so beneath you that they aren’t even worth educating, regardless of the medium (i.e. debate). Someone like johokat will try to dust himself off and deliver a couple of failed jokes here, but next time he gets into an argument like this one, I can guarantee you he’s going to think a little harder about how he tries to respond to avoid getting schooled…figuratively, of course.</p>
<p>i already got into northeastern syracuse suny buffalo/albany/binghamton/stony brook/montclair/umass amerhst.</p>
<p>heh
pseudo intellectuals are funny. they hate when people point out they’re average.</p>
<p>you’re average.</p>
<p>heh</p>
<p>p.s. virgin</p>
<p>pst…you already got owned in front of everyone. quit while you’re behind. </p>
<p>you’re trying too hard. cue tic-like overuse of “heh”</p>
<p>heh</p>
<p>why are you whispering on a message board
how did you “own” me? I pointed out your definition of intelligence was wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it. (big sign of stupidity) You keep pointing out my SATs but we all know that (well, the ones that are intelligent) it’s a measure of knowledge and test taking ability. I know I could score 2k+ if i studied for it. That’s why I asked if I should redo it.</p>
<p>oh
about the trying too hard</p>
<p>you sure respond fast</p>
<p>heh</p>
<p>Well, as long as we’re on the topic of scholarships, previously they were awarded on the basis of class rank/SAT based on a matrix. I just barely made the cut for the presidential scholarship, but luckily I did. Now they changed it so that there is no numeric formula with regard to scholarships for first year students. I personally like this change because</p>
<p>1) the SAT out of 1600 has a margin of error of +/- 60 points and previously (out of 1600) scholarships increased/varied every 50 points.</p>
<p>2) Class rank is unfair given how people go to schools of varying difficulty. At least this way transcripts might be viewed more logically (taking into account course rigor, the high school) instead of simply requiring a class rank set in stone.</p>
<p>taken from Rutgers website</p>
<p>Selection Criteria</p>
<p>Rutgers scholarships are competitive awards that recognize and encourage academic excellence. Criteria include academic achievement, leadership qualities, and potential for success. Other consideration may include students who are the first generation to attend college or have overcome adversity.</p>
<p>There is no set of “numbers” that will guarantee a scholarship or scholarship amount. Rather we look at the whole of a student’s record. Most past scholarship awardees were in the top 10% of their high school graduating class, with many in the top 5%; most had A or A- high school GPA’s, and most had combined SAT’s of 1950 or higher.</p>
<p>Please note that each Rutgers school or college selects scholarship recipients to shape their entering class. Therefore it is possible for a student admitted to several academic units within Rutgers to receive scholarship awards in amounts that vary by school/college.</p>
<p>Hopefully this will make you feel better. Lastly, the people who come from community college probably earn their scholarships as much as high schoolers do. Phi Betta Kapa is probably no joke. On the other hand, it’s pretty lame that anyone with a 3.0 from community college has a good chance at transferring to Rutgers. The NJ stars program I also believe is not money well allocated. I’d prefer if Rutgers NB was more selective in general, with Rutgers Camden and Newark being less selective. I’d use a model similar to the UC schools.</p>
<p>Carbonate: Oh! Well in that case, at least you got scholarship money! It might not be a full ride, but it’s still something compared to the rest of us who have to rely on outside sources. </p>
<p>Um, I only read posts once. I don’t keep track of what every individual said -_-</p>
<p>supersaiyan: Wow, thanks for the info. I wonder if it affects students who are already enrolled? I got screwed over for the Presidential scholarship because I’m going to the pharmacy school, and they’d just changed it this year so that you have to be in the top 3% (not just the top 5%) for a full scholarship to the pharmacy or business schools.</p>
<p>unfortunately, this will probably only apply to the incoming class next year. They made this change on the website late spring i think.</p>
<p>ahhhh i missed it! if they had implemented that, i definitely would have gotten moneys. oh well …</p>
<p>why are you whispering on a message board
how did you “own” me? I pointed out your definition of intelligence was wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it. (big sign of stupidity) You keep pointing out my SATs but we all know that (well, the ones that are intelligent) it’s a measure of knowledge and test taking ability. I know I could score 2k+ if i studied for it. That’s why I asked if I should redo it.</p>
<p>oh
about the trying too hard</p>
<p>you sure respond fast</p>
<p>heh </p>
<p>lol @ johokat, he doesn’t know when to sit down and give up. you got owned when you tried to downplay the test you bombed, citing that it is a “knowledge” based test (what knowledge? the basic verbal and math skills a middle school student is capable of doing? if you consider the SAT a knowledge based test you are seriously borderline ■■■■■■■■, but that would be no surprise given your previous posts) and the elusive “test taking ability” without realizing that the SAT is mostly intelligence with a slight bit of preparation. If you even read the definition of intelligence you kept copy-pasting, you’d realize that. If you “know” you can do better, then do so - why would you bother asking here? The truth is you’re young, insecure, and inexperienced.</p>
<p>Oh, and you try to correlate response time with effort, for extra fail points. Let me know when you get tired of looking like a fool, and I can direct you to some good grocery stores that could use your esteemed base of knowledge, intellect, and wit in the janitorial department.</p>
<p>anyway, BleeD27Gr33N: you can do either. just make sure to take the prereq classes ([Rutgers</a> Business School : Eligibility Requirements](<a href=“http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=1758]Rutgers”>http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=1758)) first before you do transfer to the bs so that you’re not behind. </p>
<p>you do, though, need to be enrolled in sas before you apply to the bs. so you can either finish up the prereq courses at rutgers sas in spring 2010 first (though you would need to apply to the bs december 2009 if you don’t want to be behind, I THINK, not 100% sure since the process is a little more complicated for transfers) or at your college in fall 2009. then transfer into sas for spring 2010. althoughh i’m wondering ---- I just confused myself (see, the bs requires you to be in sas before going to the bs…but wouldn’t that put community college graduates a semester behind? because they need to be in sas before taking bs courses?) BUT I’m pretty sure that after community college you can start taking marketing/acconting courses right off the bat (source: sister is in bs and many friends of hers are transfer students from other schools. right after transferring in the fall, they were taking bs courses that same semester w/o being in sas first. confusing.) </p>
<p>consult this page that has info about transfers [Rutgers</a> Business School : Admissions](<a href=“http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=254]Rutgers”>http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=254) and these people if you have any further questions [Rutgers</a> Business School : Dean’s office](<a href=“http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=710]Rutgers”>http://business.rutgers.edu/default.aspx?id=710) dean traxler is a very welcoming, nice woman (was a pre-business major and had to talk to her many times to get out of the bs). also here’s the number for the newbruns bs for all transfer questions: (732) 445-3600</p>
<p>hope this was at least a tad helpful. best of luck!</p>
<p>I can clear some of your confusion naoise. I already applied to the business school, and I am a transfer student. You just have to be ACCEPTED to the SAS first, then you are eligible to apply to the BS. I don’t plan on taking any courses for SAS myself.</p>
<p>haha this thread finally got back on track. seriously though guys, cool it. We’re all friends here trying to relay information about College through each other. Just stop the personal attacks please.</p>
<p>Thanks hero and naoise, you guys have really helped me out. I think I am going to complete my Associates degree so I can receive financial help from the schools. I’ll feel more prepared than just jumping into the spring '10 semester. thanks again</p>
<p>ahh thanks hero 
i was super confused and asking around and just got even more confused. best of luck to you bleedgreen.</p>