<p>So someone mentioned the term "racial pride" in another thread and it sparked my interest. </p>
<p>Personally, I see racial or ethnic pride quite a lot. Living in South Florida, I am forced to look at Colombian, Cuban, Puerto Rican, and Jamaican (among others) flags really every day. </p>
<p>I have too, seen many, many times, the typical "proud black" or "proud latino" or even more common- the "proud Indian"- who, not only utilizes every opportunity available to let everyone know how much better "their people" are but also are found constantly bragging about "their country". </p>
<p>Many black kids in my school have blatantly told me: "I don't like white people. Are you white?"</p>
<p>Now, what is your opinion on this and does this happen in your area/high school?</p>
<p>Personally, I feel any sort of "ethnic pride" is irrelevant, ignorant, and stupid. I cannot say I am "proud of been Hispanic" because I was born Hispanic- just like I was born a woman. It's something that I cannot help. It's like saying "I'm proud of having brown hair and everything my fellow brown-haired people have accomplished throughtout the centuries."</p>
<p>On the other hand- something that I CHOOSE- say, an accomplishment, does make me proud. I chose it. I am an individual. </p>
<p>I am not racially proud. Actually, I like white people very little... but that's besides the point. </p>
<p>I don't like the double standard when it comes to racial pride. If Hispanics or African-Americans have racial pride everybody thinks it's great. If whites have racial pride then they are labeled racists and Nazis. </p>
<p>I agree with you, I don't understand the point of being proud simply because you're born a certain way. Should I be proud that I was born with blue-green eyes? No, that'd be weird. So why's it any different?</p>
<p>I'm proud to be Chinese and I like to discredit hippies who protest the Tibet issue.</p>
<p>What bugs me is that it's OK to have racial pride for any race but white people. It's OK to say Irish, German, or French pride, but as soon as you say "white pride", people get on you like a bunch of hungry bloodhounds.</p>
<p>Being in S. Florida too, I'm sure I see exactly the same that you do, MetdethGNR. I understand that people are proud of their heritage and they don't want to lose their identity, but racial supremacy often overshadows this. This is the reason why there are always fights at my school on Haitian Independence Day between the haitians and jamaicans. It is completely uncalled for. Furthermore, it seems ridiculous to bring this to another country. America being the melting pot that it is, no single race, culture, or ethnic group is superior over the others.</p>
<p>I'm black, and much to my family's disappointment, I have no ethnic pride whatsoever. I don't know why, but it just hasn't seemed important to me. I don't see why we can't collectively celebrate our diversity, if it's even necessary. Interesting that this topic is brought up on the 4th of July...</p>
<p>As someone who stands behind women and minorities when it comes to their government, I too agree that the whole racial (and even gender, if you think about it!) pride thing is too much.</p>
<p>It should be about establishing equality, not reversing the hierarchy! </p>
<p>I completely respect folks who fly and/or wear their native flags, though. But after that things usually get taken out of hand...(in terms of pride, NOT activism and defense of one's race/gender)</p>
<p>I pretty much come to the defense of my hispanic friends. I'm 100% white, but speak some pretty decent spanish. I sometimes can't keep up, but I can understand conversations.</p>
<p>I support all their pride, and it rarely gets out of hand. By the way -- a LOT of south florida people here? Me too :D</p>
<p>If you go to Miami, then you will probably see lots of hispanics.</p>
<p>But anyways, I was in health class and there were four puerto ricans who always talked to eachother in spanish, and our class disliked that very much. Everyone would always make fun of them and stuff, and it kinda angered me. They were obviously proud to be puerto rican. But it's whatever. I think they don't like alot of whites because, a lot of whites don't like the fact that they speak spanish. Why not? They have that right. Just like I do, and I'm white.</p>
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<p>It's the same at my school. What if I white kid said, "I don't like black people." He would probably be suspended and everyone would hate them. Why is it that it is okay for a black kid to say it but not a white kid? It's astounding to me.</p>
<p>Well it's not right for a black kid to say is it?? It isn't right either way and I could care less if someone likes me judged on race or not. If it's that big of a problem dont' think they can just get away with it. Report it if it bothers</p>
<p>AGH this is to the post below me dumb posting problems</p>
<p>I'm not proud of the fact that I am merely Chinese.</p>
<p>I am proud of the fact that my name is Vivi, I am 17 years old, I have a bright future ahead of me, I have a personality that I am confident about, I have ambitious plans for the future, I have the ability to self-teach, and am a complex being full of creative ideas, innovative dreams, and strong opinions.</p>
<p>The fact that I'm Chinese contributes to none of the above, so it's not a "I'm proud of the fact that I'm Chinese", but "I'm proud to be a person with the above qualities who happens to also be Chinese". That said, there are so many things about my race that I hate it's not even funny.</p>
<p>Vivi ~ aren't you in the least bit happy to be associated with Chinese culture? I see no problem with visiting the country, and living out the countries culture in america such as the food, stuff like that.</p>
<p>Haha, of course =) It's not like I completely, absolutely abhor being born a Chinese girl. There are some aspects of the culture that I love; for example, I've been participating in Chinese folk dance for the past 10 years and have enjoyed every moment. I just wish people would stop attributing my successes, my intelligence, the way I act, and the way I speak to my race. I don't particularly enjoy huge displays of "racial pride" either: "Hooray, the probabilities of life have somehow given me the alleles to be classified as a Chinese person"? Sure, okay. I also dislike the Asian population in my home city quite a bit, so perhaps I'm just biased, hehe.</p>
<p>I've never really had an ounce of racial pride, or gender pride or any of that. I've spent years and years of my childhood trying to adher to the typical standard of what a boy should be like, and not be accused of being a sellout. But this year I've realized a lot about myself, and am proud of that. For one thing, I'm a highly sensitive person, which only about 15-20% of the population is.</p>
<p>Is there anything wrong with that? By black culture's standards, it is. Not only is it that if you're a guy, you have to be a certain way: stoic, tough, aggressive, show no feelings, etc. And if you're black, you have to be twice as tough, and very outspoken. Yet I am none of those. </p>
<p>And I wish plenty others realized that. It's all about finding out who you are; what makes you different from most others!</p>
<p>I am proud in the sense that I appreciate and accept my Chinese background, I am proud of all the things the ancient Chinese have accomplished, I am proud in the sense that I am not ashamed of my culture.</p>
<p>I'm not proud that I just happen to be Chinese, that I was born Chinese... I'm just proud in the sense that I am happy and content with where I came from, that I know my roots. </p>
<p>But really, Chinese pride isn't so much a big deal since there's hardly any other Chinese kids around, so I never grew up with a strong sense of being Chinese because I never felt that strong community, that sense of brotherhood among other people like me. I'm sure, however, Latinos that grew up with other Latinos have a strong sense of community and friendship, and so, feel proud of their culture.</p>
<p>It's not that "white pride" is racist, but it's just that it is so hard to do because a lot of white Americans don't have a lot of uniting factors, outside of the stereotypical hot dogs, apple pie, baseball, etc. You need to have people identify with each other in order to have pride. Asians can identify and sympathize with other Asians because they have common life experiences and culture- same thing goes for Latinos and Blacks (most of the time). But Whites? There are so many different kinds of white people, with different backgrounds and upbringings, which is why it is hard to be "proud".</p>
<p>I was watching a George Carlin show on HBO and this argument is EXACTLY what he was talking about.</p>
<p>*Personally, I feel any sort of "ethnic pride" is irrelevant, ignorant, and stupid. I cannot say I am "proud of been Hispanic" because I was born Hispanic- just like I was born a woman. It's something that I cannot help. It's like saying "I'm proud of having brown hair and everything my fellow brown-haired people have accomplished throughtout the centuries."
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<p>Except in his case he was Irish and he used lots of vulgar language to convey his point =O</p>
<p>I agree with woeiseponine, I'm proud of both Australia and India, and what they have accomplished.
I think that you should be proud of your country(ies), but not to a point where you dislike other cultures or put others down and talk about how good your country is.</p>
<p>I never understood the point of racial pride. It annoys me when people say "I'm proud of all the things black (Hispanic, Cambodian, etc.) people have accomplished." Please, you had nothing more to do with the invention of peanut butter than I did.</p>