<p>Columbia last?!? Why?</p>
<ol>
<li><p>the small liberal arts colleges (by which i assume you mean williams, amherst, swarthmore, and pomona) simply aren't comparable to larger research universities with grad schools, and which are apparently ranked simply on the basis of crap like how many nobel prize winners they are affiliated with. if you want to go to swarthmore i don't think the harvard forum, or a thread ranking the ivies is for you.</p></li>
<li><p>cornell blows. think of it this way: it's pretty evident that penn CAS/georgetown college/duke trinity college are FAR better than cornell CAS, and most people probably end up going there simply because it's in the ivy league, and that's beyond pathetic; it's certainly not the gorgeous ithica climate that's attracting anyone.</p></li>
<li><p>whoever thinks columbia is at the bottom of the ivy league is on CRACK</p></li>
</ol>
<p>PARDART... you're an idiot.</p>
<p>My analysis was very realistic. I was not biased the way I ranked them... I ranked Cornell towards the bottom. I'd say it's better than Brown but not at the top of the Ivy's. Regardless, the differences are miniscule. And Trinity college? are you kidding me??? You obviously know nothing about Cornell. Where do you even go to school? How old are you?</p>
<p>Ok, guys, seriously. There's no need here to go questioning other people's rankings, because there ISN'T just one "right" ranking. Sure, I disagree with a hell of a lot about what is said here, but isn't the point of this thread for everyone to voice his or her own personal opinion of some ranking for the schools? I can understand explaining your own rankings and describing why you think one school has more merit than another, but fighting because you disagree with someone's personal opinion is ridiculous. </p>
<p>No one here is an expert on the Ivy league enough to define an absolute and unquestionable "order," and if you're looking for some specific ranking instead of just people's own personal rankings and opinions, I suggest you go check out the Princeton Review lists or the US News Best College Rankings. Even if many of us will still disagree with those lists, you can bet that the people behind them are more qualified to make "absolute" lists than we are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/sections/rankings%5B/url%5D">http://www.usnews.com/sections/rankings</a> -- US News Rankings
<a href="http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankings.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankings.asp</a> -- Princeton Review Rankings</p>
<p>Top schools lists for these rankings--</p>
<p>US NEWS
1. Princeton
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. CIT / Stanford / MIT
7. Penn
8. Duke
9. Dartmouth / Columbia / UChicago</p>
<p>Cornell comes in at 12, and Brown at 15</p>
<p>**Princeton Review<a href="Best%20Overall%20Academic%20Experience%20for%20Undergraduates">/b</a>
1. UChicago
2. Stanford
3. Rice
4. Columbia
5. Reed
6. Swarthmore
7. Middlebury
8. Haverford
9. Williams
10. Wellesley</p>
<p>Note the lack of Ivies here--goes to show you that your list really depends on what you're ranking on. The Ivies pop up on several lists on the PR, of course, just not in the top ten of this one.</p>
<p>"trinity college" is the name of duke's liberal arts college you dumb ass, i wasn't referencing that piece of trash in connecticut</p>
<p>and i think i'm just as fit to make a arbitrary judgements about colleges as you are, i'm 18</p>
<p>so just out of curiosity PARDART... where are you planning on going to school next year? or are you already at college?</p>
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1. the small liberal arts colleges (by which i assume you mean williams, amherst, swarthmore, and pomona) simply aren't comparable to larger research universities with grad schools, and which are apparently ranked simply on the basis of crap like how many nobel prize winners they are affiliated with. if you want to go to swarthmore i don't think the harvard forum, or a thread ranking the ivies is for you.
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<p>US News gives Amherst and Williams a peer review of 4.7. Thats higher than all the ivies except HYP, and the "peers" that were surveyed by US News are, Pardart, more qualified to give such ratings than your august self. And that's not even mentioning placement of seniors in top grad program, where Williams ranks number 5 - right behind HYPS.</p>
<p>Pardart, I'd like to know why Cornell "blows", why the CAS is so horrendous. If you're a Cornell reject I can understand the bitterness, but if your claims have any grounding in facts please let the rest of us know</p>
<p>Why does it MATTER that some people dislike Cornell and others don't? Just drop it, everyone, seriously. These rankings are all our own personal judgement, so there's no point in fighting over disagreements.</p>
<p>1) Harvard
2) Yale
3) Princeton
4) Columbia
5) Penn
6) Brown
7) Dartmouth
8) Cornell</p>
<p>This is just a general ranking, based on the overall reputation of each school and the level of the students they typically accept. Of course, if you are interested in business you would say Penn is the best, and if you wish to major in the sciences you might pick a "lower" school over Yale, and so forth. All these schools are so great it really depends on personal preference and your interests.</p>
<p>I've heard Brown is especially strong in the sciences</p>
<p>Personal ranking for undergraduate studies:</p>
<p>1) Yale
2) Princeton
3) Harvard
4) Columbia
5) Brown
6) Dartmouth
7) Penn
8) Cornell</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Brown</li>
</ol>
<p>So, as a Cornellian Aggie wandering onto the Harvard board...I just had to mention that Cornell's ag school, far from "decreasing its prestige" has consistently ranked among the best in the world.</p>
<ol>
<li>Yale
(huge gap)</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
</ol>
<p>Penn
Cornell
Columbia
Yale
Dartmouth
Princeton
Harvard
Community College
Brown :)</p>
<p>Actual ranking for undergrad studies:
Princeton
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia
Penn
Cornell
Harvard</p>
<p>Venkat, for undergrad studies, Harvard is definitely better than Penn, Columbia and Brown. Cornell is underrated for undergrad - it's huge, but there are great programs to be found there if you're in the right major.</p>
<p>I've heard bad things about Harvard but I'll acknowledge that it's all hearsay. </p>
<p>Really, Princeton, Dartmouth and Brown have very small grad programs and can put more money towards undergrad studies. Penn, Cornell, Columbia, and Harvard have tons of grad students and grad programs, so undergrads don't get as much attention as they would in the other three. However, the availability of grad programs can be a positive too if you are able to take those classes and can be a positive when applying for grad school. I think Yale fits into the first category, but don't know much about it's grad programs and how big they are. Cornell also has an advantage with so many different undergrad programs offering a diverse selection of courses that are not available at any other Ivy. Ranking them really depends what you're looking for individually.</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Penn
10.Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
...
...</p>
<p>hmm? you want more?</p>