Rank the Ivy and Pseudo-Ivy League

<p>harvard
mit
princeton
stanford
yale

caltech
penn
columbia
brown
northwestern
chicago
duke
dartmouth
cornell</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
Mit
Penn
Columbia
Brown
Caltech
Dartmouth
Duke
Cornell
Northwestern</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT</p>

<p>Columbia
Penn
Caltech
Cornell
Brown</p>

<p>Duke
Chicago
Northwestern
Dartmouth
NYU</p>

<p>You asked about Universiity prestige, not undergraduate prestige. so…</p>

<p>Harvard
Stanford
Berkeley
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Cornell
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Dartmouth
Johns Hopkins
Duke
Northwestern
Brown
WashU
big gap, then big yawn, then NYU</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>CalTech</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>Wash U</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>UMD -CP </li>
<li>Union</li>
</ol>

<p>Wait I don’t get it, what is the point of this? If you want to rank a school by prestige, you have two options:</p>

<p>1.) Use the search tool on this forum; this thread has been made at least 200 times.
2.) USNWR PA Rankings</p>

<p>At least we all agree on one thing, Harvard probably wins this.</p>

<p>And Stanford and MIT are the top non-Ivies.</p>

<p>Until I was 12 I thought Stanford was an Ivy…</p>

<p>huh?..Stanford is not an Ivy?</p>

<p>since when?</p>

<p>Since it moved to California :)</p>

<p>^^^,outside America, I have met tons of educated people who believe Stanford and MIT are Ivies and forget Princeton, Dartmouth, Penn and Brown.
if you ask them to name all Ivies, the typical answer will be like:
“I can only remember 6 of them: Harvard, Stanford, Yale, MIT, Columbia and Cornell. btw, whats the other two?”</p>

<p>^ they remember cornell but forget princeton? whaaaaaaaaaaa??</p>

<p>LOL!</p>

<p>When I told the whole list of real Ivies here in my country, they all react like “Where’s MIT & Stanford? And what the heck is Dartmouth?”</p>

<p>Post #30 sums it up for the international take on the ivies (although I would disagree about Princeton). A lot of educated people outside of the US have never heard of Dartmouth, Penn, and Brown and replace them with Stanford and MIT when asked to name the ivies.</p>

<p>

When was that? Yesterday?:)</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>CalTech</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Wash U St Louis</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>UNC Chapel Hill</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>NYU</li>
</ol>

<p>Ive got that bias towards publics, but hey, this is subjective after all…</p>

<p>On the international front, UC Berkeley would be up there in recognition and prestige with the Ivies…in some countries only Harvard would trump it.</p>

<p>1 Harvard
2 Stanford
3 Berkeley
4 MIT
5 Princeton
6 Yale
7 Caltech
8 Chicago
9 Columbia
10 Penn
10 Cornell</p>

<p>1 Harvard
2 Stanford
3 MIT
3 Princeton
5 Yale
6 Chicago
6 Columbia
8 Berkeley
9 Penn
9 Cornell
9 Northwestern
9 Caltech</p>

<p>Controversial below Group A</p>

<p>Group A

  1. Harvard
    2.tie. Princeton, Yale
    4.tie. Stanford, MIT
  2. CalTech</p>

<p>Group B
7.tie. Brown, Williams, Amherst
10. Columbia, UC Berkeley
12. tie. Penn, Dartmouth
14.tie. Cornell, Duke</p>

<p>Group C
16.tie. Chicago, Swarthmore
18. Northwestern
19. WashUniv.Stl
20. Johns Hopkins</p>

<p>Group D
21.tie Carnegie Mellon, Rice
23.tie. Vanderbilt, Emory
25. Georgetown</p>

<p>@seta, how can they know Cornell but not Princeton? Have they not read This Side of Paradise? Haha.</p>

<p>I’ve met many people who will think the Ivies are:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT</p>

<p>Then I’ll tell them there are eight Ivies, and that Stanford and MIT aren’t Ivies. Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia and UPenn are.</p>

<p>They will respond like this, “Isn’t Pennsylvania a state in the US? Isn’t that a state university?”</p>