Ranking The D1 Conferences

College Search & Selection
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<p>College</a> Rankings by Athletic Conference - US News and World Report</p>

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<p>"Washington State is much better than Oregon State and Oregon. WSU is also better that Arizona State. Everybody and their mom gets into Arizona State. WSU is right on par with Arizona IMHO." </p>

<p>Actually, Washington State is not as good as Oregon and is about on par with Arizona State. It is not nowhere near "much better" than Oregon State or Oregon. I have no connection to any of the schools. It just is what it is.</p>

<p>Athletic</a> Conference Breakdown: Pac-10 - US News and World Report</p>

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<p>Wow, I live in Washington, so I'm a Pac 10 guy (Ivy League next year), and I'm just amazed at how academically stacked the ACC is. Outside of the Ivy League of course, I'm guessing they'd be the most powerful academic league. When you have schools as good as Boston College all the way down at 5 and U Miami at 7, you know you're pretty good.</p>

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<p>But the bottom of the ACC is pretty weak. The big ten is consistant throughout.</p>

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<p>The ACC (Duke, UVa, UNC, Wake, BC), Big 10 (Chicago*, Michigan, Northwestern, Wisconsin, UIUC) and the PAC 10 (Cal, Stanford, UCLA, UDub) are all very strong. </p>

<ul>
<li>Although Chicago dropped out of Big 10 athleticsback in the 1930s, it is still a member of the CIC; Big 10 + the University of Chicago academic group.</li>
</ul>

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<p>My Ranking-</p>

<p>Big East</p>

<p>1.Georgetown (alma mater of Presidents, Supreme Court Justices, Heads of State, four current governors, five current Senators, two dozen Rhodes Scholars since 1984, an alumnus who is the winner of the most Emmy Awards, T 14 Law School, the top ranked program in the world in International Affairs, 2 current cabinet officers, etc)</p>

<p>Large Gap</p>

<ol>
<li>Notre Dame (US News likes and entering class has very high stats)</li>
<li>Syracuse (Maxwell School)</li>
<li>Pittsburgh (good med school)</li>
<li>Villanova</li>
<li>Rutgers</li>
<li>Marquette</li>
<li>UConn</li>
<li>Cincinatti</li>
<li>West Virgnina (suprising # of Rhodes Scholars)</li>
<li>St. Johns (no PBK chapter)</li>
<li>DePaul (no PBK chapter)</li>
<li>Seton Hall (no PBK chapter)</li>
<li>USF(no PBK Chapter)</li>
<li>Providence (No PBK chapter)</li>
<li>Louisville (no PBK chapter).</li>
</ol>

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<p>"But the bottom of the ACC is pretty weak. The big ten is consistant throughout. "</p>

<p>Just like in basketball. ACC has 4 great schools, 7 good schools, 1 decent school. Big Ten has 2 great schools and 9 good schools.</p>

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<p>Pull out the best school from each big conference-Duke, Georgetown, Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and you really have something that is pretty impressive proving, I guess, that people can both sweat and think.</p>

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<p>Some of you guys need to get your ACC rankings straight.</p>

<ol>
<li>Dook (excuse me, I mean Dook)</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>UNC</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Miami</li>
<li>Florida State</li>
<li>Virginia Tech</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>NC State</li>
</ol>

<p>It’s really amazing how strong the ACC is academically. #1 is an elite school on par with some Ivies ,#2-5 are all powerful top 30 schools, and #1-10 all have nationally ranked/prestigious programs. </p>

<p>Clemson and NC State are really the only poor academic schools in the conference, and I believe Clemson at least manages a Tier 1 ranking.</p>

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<p>ACC:

  1. Duke
  2. UVA
  3. UNC
  4. Wake Forest
  5. Boston College
  6. Georgia Tech
  7. Miami
  8. Maryland
  9. Clemson
  10. Florida State
  11. Virginia Tech
  12. NC State</p>
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<p>All 12 Big 10/CIC are ranked among the top 75 universities in the nation. There isn 't a bum in the lot! </p>

<p>Top 20 universities:
Northwestern University
University of Chicago
University of Michigan</p>

<p>Top 35 universities:
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
University of Wisconsin-Madison</p>

<p>Top 75 universities:
Indiana University-Bloomington
Michigan State University
Ohio State University
Pennsylvania State University
Purdue University-West Lafayette
University of Iowa
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities</p>

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<p>Since 2000 - both schools have the same no. of schools making the Championship game.</p>

<p>The B10 also has 4 schools w/ 3 or more championship game appearances, the ACC has 2.</p>

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<p>Just by US News rankings:</p>

<p>Rank in conf/school/US News ranking

  1. Duke (8) v. Northwestern (12)
  2. UVA (23) v. Michigan (26)
  3. Wake Forest (28) v. Wisconsin (35)
  4. UNC (30) v. UIUC (40)
  5. Boston College (34) v. Penn State (47)
    6.Georgia Tech (35) v. Ohio State (57)
  6. Miami (51) v. Minnesota (61)
  7. Maryland (53) v. Purdue (66)
  8. Clemson (61) v. Iowa (66)
  9. Virginia Tech (71) v. Indiana (71)
  10. NC State (83) v. Michigan State (71)
  11. Florida State (102)</p>

<p>I’d say ACC generally slightly stronger except at the bottom where it’s significantly weaker. So “top to bottom”? It’s got to be the Big Ten.</p>

<p>On the other hand, if we add Chicago as the 12th CIC school (as is appropriate given that the CIC is the Big Ten’s academic counterpart), we get:</p>

<ol>
<li>Duke (8) v. Chicago (8)</li>
<li>UVA (23) v. Northwestern (12</li>
<li>Wake Forest (28) v. Michigan (26)</li>
<li>UNC (30) v. Wisconsin (35)</li>
<li>Boston College (34) v. UIUC (40)
6.Georgia Tech (35) v. Penn State (47)</li>
<li>Miami (51) v. Ohio State (57)</li>
<li>Maryland (53) v. Minnesota (61)</li>
<li>Clemson (61) v. Purdue (66)</li>
<li>Virginia Tech (71) v. Iowa (66)</li>
<li>NC State (83) v. Indiana (71)</li>
<li>Florida State (102) v. Michigan State (71)</li>
</ol>

<p>Now I’d say no question, the CIC is stronger than the ACC.</p>