<p>I have a bit of a rare situation... and I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what I could do.</p>
<p>I am a UCSC student looking to transfer to a different UC for Mechanical Engineering.
I took Calc 3 twice, earning a "D" both times. (ugh!) I intended to take it over, but because of that last "D" I was barred from enrollment for the fall. Since I'm trying to transfer and Calc 3 is of paramount importance for my admission, I took the ASSIST-certified equivalent course at a community college. Fortunately, for UC transfers only the most recent grade is counted for courses in which a D or an F was earned. You can see this here:</p>
<p>Now I'm being told courses taken at a UC must be repeated only at a UC.
If you look at that link, you will see that for Freshman applicants, it explicitly requires "the exact course" for this policy to withstand. However, for Transfer students it makes no distinction. Although the classes are totally equivalent, the grade I receive this fall will apparently not replace the "D"s. I feel like I'm being penalized when the barred enrollment prevented me from retaking the "exact" class.</p>
<p>If these two D's remain on my record and are not replaced, my transfer eligibility is likely lost. Is there anyone I could talk to about this, or do I have any sort of grounds for an appeal to this policy?</p>
<p>I am terribly sorry, but I do not know whether anyone on here will be able to help. Most of us are trying to get into UCs for the first time. I really think someone at your school will be best able to answer your questions. You seem to express your predicament well and can probably make a good case for yourself. Is there a counselor of some administrative official that you could convince to help you? </p>
<p>From my perspective, you have two choices:</p>
<p>1.) Focus on getting back into your school and continuing your studies there with the possibility of MAYBE transferring in the future.
2.) Drop out of UCSC and go to a CC full-time and try to transfer from there to another UC. This may be difficult as well as it seems you are on proabation at your current school. I believe that when you apply for transfer, they will generally want to know whether or not you are on probation at any school you have attended.</p>
<p>To clarify, I am currently a full-time student at the community college taking 17 sem. units.</p>
<p>The barred enrollment was only for this Fall, and I am returning this upcoming Winter to UCSC for the remainder of the year. </p>
<p>Despite being full-time at the CC right now, counselors consistently tell me that any student having attended a 4-year institution gets put into the lowest priority group of applicants. Frankly this sucks because UCSC doesn't have my major, but I suppose there's nothing I can do about that.</p>
<p>Truthfully I'm not concerned with how UCSC treats the GPA I have there with regard to the repeat class.... I really only care about how the GPA shows up on my application at each school. </p>
<p>If I need to speak with anyone I'd think it'd best be the people reading my application. Since some facets to the application can be altered after the Nov. 30 deadline (fall grades and winter/spring schedule changes), I'm hoping I can somehow convey that my GPA is skewed much lower because of a trivial technicality. </p>
<p>...or maybe I could take the class at ucsc AGAIN! XP</p>
<p>if you were serious about transferring you would stay at the CC for the spring so you could obtain CCC priority. Also, no offense but you had to take multivariable calculus three times. Are you sure that you will be able to handle the engineering coursework?</p>
<p>Because I have attended a UC, it is impossible for me to gain the CCC priority.</p>
<p>I'm confident I can handle it. The theory in those classes just hasn't been my cup of tea. Proving open sets and calculating Jacobians are hardly the indicators of a good engineer.</p>
<p>dude if you went to a UC u can get CCC priority. I dropped out of UCSB and have talked to all the counselors. All you need to do to get priority is to fulfill the definition of a CCC student.</p>
<p>Heres the definition of a CCC student:
"A qualified California community college student applying for admission to the University of California in advanced standing will be given priority admission over all other
similarly qualified applicants if: 1) he or she was enrolled at one or more California community colleges for at least two terms (excluding summer sessions); 2) the last college
he or she attended before admission to a UC campus was a California community college (excluding summer sessions); and 3) he or she has completed at least 30 semester
(45 quarter) UC-transferable units at one or more California community colleges."</p>
<p>As long as your last college before transferring is a CCC you get priority. This would not happen if u went back to UCSC.</p>
<p>Hmm... interesting. Oddly enough, technically I do fulfill those requirements!</p>
<p>I spoke directly with an admissions adviser at UC Irvine today and she essentially told me having attended a UC nullified the possibility of this, but seriously she didn't seem to know exactly what she was talking about. </p>
<p>Since we're dealing with the fine print... I'm gonna nitpick with regard to each requirement here, but bare with me....</p>
<h1>1. I've been enrolled in CC's since 10th grade, and have been at a CC for more than two terms.</h1>
<h1>2. Coincidentally, I will likely be taking a class this spring semester at the nearby CC since it's equivalent is full at UCSC. Although I would be attending UCSC, I would also technically be enrolled at a CC for my "final" term.</h1>
<h1>3. I have accumulated over 30 units from solely CC's</h1>
<p>Essentially if I stayed enrolled in a CC for the remaining spring (last term) while at also at UCSC... then I would (if you look closely) meet the precise definition of a CCC student. Yes, I would be a UC student, but the definition doesn't seem to prohibit that! </p>
<p>...or am I just crazy? And thanks for the insight... this might help me out bigtime.</p>
<p>Sorry to burst your bubble, but failing Calc 3 a number of times is a good indication that you should rethink your major. Did you get bad grades in Calc 1 & 2 as well? Diligent students do not fail CC-level calculus. Your contention that you can handle engineering courses is silly. You failing Calc 3 so many times means that you are simply not prepared for engineering coursework. However, if you're dead set on becoming an engineer, go back to Calc 1 & 2 and try to get As in those.</p>
<p>I would think that in order to be classified as a CCC student, you should attend a CCC and only a CCC for Spring. In other words, don't go back to UCSC. But, I'm not really qualified to say.</p>
<p>However, I agree with the others here. Unless you can make something magical happen, I think it will be very, very difficult to get into any UC engineering program with having failed Calc three times. Remember, engineering is an impacted major at just about every campus, so it is competitive to get in to.</p>
<p>Also, I'm not quite sure if your dilemma's the same, but I was enrolled at a UC for a quarter (UCI) and left to go to a CCC. I was told by a UC rep that because my last school I was enrolled in was a CCC I'll receive the community college priority as a transfer. So if it's possible for you to stay at a CCC, maybe you should to get that leg up.</p>
<p>First of all if you are barred from admissions and you had to go to a CC then it seems like they placed you on academic probation. Correct me if this is wrong.</p>
<p>If thats the case you MUST clear it up with your UC before anything else. You can not transfer or apply to another UC until you have cleared it up with the UC that barred your enrollment. After this is cleared up you either can go back to UCSC and stay until your transfer semester. Or you must completely withdraw from UCSC after you have cleared up with UCSC (for being barred from enrollment). Then you attend a CC. However, before you attempt to withdraw talk to undergraduate admissions of the UC you are trying to transfer to in order to confirm that no problems will arise from your situation. Also, talk to an admissions counselor or any other counselor at UCSC to make sure there will not be any problems as well.</p>
<p>As for the grade, it must be taken at a UC in order to replace the grade. The CC grade will most likely not replace the grade. </p>
<p>As for application wise you should contact the UC you are trying to transfer to, in order to see if they can do anything that could help you. Or they can provide the best possible route to take because the D will affect your application.</p>
<p>I have a hard time believing a fellow human couldn't understand how the grade repeat technicality severely hurt me, but then again I've found these people to be vehemently against deviating from policy... ever. </p>
<p>I was "barred from enrollment" just for the fall. I am no longer barred and have already gained readmission; I will return this Winter. </p>
<p>If I'm simultaneously enrolled at UCSC and a CC this spring, which school would be determined as the "last" school of attendance?</p>
<p>if you intend to do engineering then why don't you just repeat the grade at UCSC and then do the 2/3 program and just get your degree in engineering from UC Berkeley? I believe you only need around a 3.1 which is much less than the gpa requirement to get into other top engineering programs. Also, some would say that UC coursework is significantly more difficult than CCC coursework but i've found my multivariable calculus class at my CCC to be way harder than any math course i took at UCSB.</p>
<p>If you attend both UCSC and a ccc, you will not be eligible as a ccc student. They do not allow concurrent enrollment at a 4-year, when you're trying to get ccc priority. I think some earlier said this but you really need to either chill at UCSC... or go to a ccc and leave UCSC behind.</p>
<p>I was doing the 3/2 program... that's why I went to UCSC! I wasn't directly admitted, but the 3/2 adviser my freshman year specifically told me I could get in after my freshman year. She subsequently left, and the new adviser told me "the old adviser was letting people in and out of the program" and that she had to "clean things up a bit".... whatever that means. I would have stuck with the program, but despite what I had been told the new adviser was adamant that only freshman will be allowed into it. It was a big disappointment. Since I had no documentation of it and my grades weren't sufficient, I did not fight it. I don't understand why they're so strict about it since very few actually stay with the program. </p>
<p>Would leaving UCSC at the end of winter and spending the spring at a CC work?</p>